Which Joystick to buy

[ColdfireTrilogy]

Originally Posted by Coen020

thanks man, i appreciate it, since these are the games i'm gonna play alot with this stick.

i'm just gonna let this thread cook for 2 days or so, see if anyone comes with a counterargument as why i should not buy it, and compare the pro's and con's

edit:

totally missed Klem's post

apperently there's ANOTHER interesting stick:



This baby can also be used on the ps3 which is a big pro for me.

Also have this stick. GARBAGE STAY AWAY. There are multiple axises bound to the same function. Rudder twist and Throttle literally interfere with eachother and function as the same axis .... it works for consoles but not well at all on the PC ... i wouldn't touch this product with a 10 foot pole.

[Coen020]

@ColdfireTrilogy

lol at the 10 foot pole, thanks btw, i am definitaly not gonna buy the AV8R then.

i think im sticking with the hotas x then, it's not what most people recommend but hell, i'm not buying a 200 dollar stick, i dont play simulators as much as they do.

As for TrackIR, it's awesome yes but is expensive as in 200 dollars or so, so no thanks, i usually use my mouse for looking around, which is annoying when in tight situations but oh well. I'm pretty used to it now, + the hotas x has HAT switch right?, yeah i think it does so, that will work.

Part of the reason i'm buying a cheap stick is because i'm new to sticks, if i buy the Warthog, im Instant-Broke + it'l probably take me 10 days of reading the manual.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Coen020

As for TrackIR, it's awesome yes but is expensive as in 200 dollars or so, so no thanks, i usually use my mouse for looking around, which is annoying when in tight situations but oh well. I'm pretty used to it now, + the hotas x has HAT switch right?, yeah i think it does so, that will work.

Do you know how to use a soldering iron?
Can you sew on a button?

If yes, go freetrack and build your own TIR for ~$30 and two hours of your time.

[HanneG]

Originally Posted by ColdfireTrilogy

There are multiple axises bound to the same function. Rudder twist and Throttle literally interfere with eachother and function as the same axis ...

How is that even possible? In the picture you posted the levers and stick appear to be on separate physical axes. Could you post a picture of Il-2's input control panel clearly showing they're the same?

[SEE]

Originally Posted by HanneG

How is that even possible? In the picture you posted the levers and stick appear to be on separate physical axes. Could you post a picture of Il-2's input control panel clearly showing they're the same?

Axis/button bus data isn't shown in IL2. You need a utility that shows data transfer for each data bus as decoded in the 'driver'. My x52 shows that the scroll wheel shares the same bus as one of the flight axis. My X52 Pro scrollwheel on the other hand uses the 'button' data bus.

[Coen020]

well guys, i've ordered the hotas x.

considering some people said it was very unprecise and others said it was pretty good, i'm hoping im the last kind of person.
Some people thought it was a bad stick, but i got the feeling they were comparing it to sticks like the Warthog, which is kinda unfair.

I was just looking for a simple stick, that didnt cost over 100 euro.
however i did want a throttle lever, and the Thrustmaster hotas X had one.

Perhaps if it totally sucks, i will return it and buy the T-16000m.

thanks for all wise comments people, hopefully i've made the right choice.
now let's get back to waiting for SOW and when it comes out i will kick your iron butt with my new Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X!

[moilami]

Well I hope you will be content with your choise and don't end up buying sticks like some women buy shoes!

[Coen020]

haha, yeah wel i do think the throttle from the hotas x looks a bit like the high heels from a woman

[albx]

Originally Posted by Coen020

well guys, i've ordered the hotas x.

considering some people said it was very unprecise and others said it was pretty good, i'm hoping im the last kind of person.
Some people thought it was a bad stick, but i got the feeling they were comparing it to sticks like the Warthog, which is kinda unfair.

I was just looking for a simple stick, that didnt cost over 100 euro.
however i did want a throttle lever, and the Thrustmaster hotas X had one.

Perhaps if it totally sucks, i will return it and buy the T-16000m.

thanks for all wise comments people, hopefully i've made the right choice.
now let's get back to waiting for SOW and when it comes out i will kick your iron butt with my new Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X!

well, my friend, as I told you I had this joystick for a couple of months.. and this was the better circle I could draw with joytester . IMO IL2 require a very precise joystick... so this could be good for games like HAWX or something like that... but not for IL-2. If you compare with the also cheap AV8R, well, the AV8R (that i also have) is another world, more precise but not so comfortable like the hotas.X

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by albx

well, my friend, as I told you I had this joystick for a couple of months.. and this was the better circle I could draw with joytester . IMO IL2 require a very precise joystick... so this could be good for games like HAWX or something like that... but not for IL-2. If you compare with the also cheap AV8R, well, the AV8R (that i also have) is another world, more precise but not so comfortable like the hotas.X

But people don't believe about the t16000m precision. I will not post more joytester results. People like to believe only expensive solutions are good, some people believe nothing will ever have the precision of a MSFF2... I'm tired.

Let's peole buy all kinds of cheap joysticks without HALL and blame all the entry level-all plastic joysticks, and after go buy expensive HOTAS solutions.

Always amazes me why the joystick market don't have much good but cheap joysticks. Well, we have, the t16000m, but people don't buy it, people deserves to pay more for bad performance...

Strange! REALLY strange! IL-2 people don't believe in benchmarks and tests... LOL!

When I saw less than $50 and HALL sensor in X and Y and the good preview of Sokol1 about it, I don't think a second more: bought the plastic toy, and have great experience over a year.