Friday 2010-12-17 Dev. update and Discussion

[JVM]

Hello Oleg!

Nice job as always...I still would like to mention something, like in image 7:

one can imagine a mix of blue and yellow in flight, with yellow on the exhaust side but it would be only in a brutal transition in mixture adjustment from OK or poor to over rich...and you really would have to push your throttle very violently to its stop, and even then, on a fuel injected 109, I do not believe it would happen...

So my idea if you would like to keep it simple would be to have three flight exhaust flame states:

1) normal/poor mixture: blue regular sized flame, and - if possible, one day! - whitish exhaust strain on paint (sure sign you are running generally too poor)

2) over rich: blue on exhaust side, with yellow end regular sized flame (the opposite of the 109 image in terms of color order), brown exhaust strain

3) much too rich: yellow flames a bit irregular, occasional misfires, again if possible, blackish exhaust strain on paint (no less sure sign you are running generally too rich)

and at startup, in a random way or on record of overprime if existing, big flames, before normal functioning.

Generally no mix of blue and yellow if yellow is on exhaut side: physically difficult to imgine in a steady state...

I would like to apologize in advance if this comment still resembles nitpicking!

JV

[C_G]

Noticing that most of the pictures seem to have been taken at dusk (or dawn), to make the flames more visible in the screenshots? Perhaps in full daylight it's more difficult to see them? The bf-109 shots are taken in full daylight however, and are equally "bright"...

Just noticed that there seem to be two options to display engine control status: by percentage and by graphical representation of control position (in the three first hurri shots)... interesting.

[Richie]

Hi Oleg.

I just loaded my cd up and I can't see any flames here and listen to Dave Southwood about always flying on maximum power settings. Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48uziQoniI0

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by Richie

Hi Oleg.

I just loaded my cd up and I can't see any flames here and listen to Dave Southwood about always flying on maximum power settings. Thanks

Wonderful piece.

Let's hope the SoW 109 handles exactly like described so us allied can have a chuckle as you luftlads who don't manage a 3 pointer end up smacking into the control tower lol

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by NLS61

I was In former east German where i witnesed a 109 G take of from reinsdorf airfield
when it did i was aprox 50 meters from liftoff point.
I've got to report that no exhaust flame was visible.
I also witnessed it from about 100 m in midair from my glider, wich because of the design of the hood has real good visibility, again i din't observe an smoke or exhaust flame.
...

I agree that 109's exhaust flames should probably be a bit less visible during daylight, but video Richie posted shows that it is clearly evident that throttle changes accompanied with smoke can be visible (and this was low resolution video).

The most interesting part about the video for me was the comparison how inverted V12 is much quieter than the normal positioned V12 engines...

[kimosabi]

Originally Posted by T}{OR

The most interesting part about the video for me was the comparison how inverted V12 is much quieter than the normal positioned V12 engines...

Interesting indeed. Makes sense though, stacks exit low and in addition you have the flame shield covering the top of the stacks.. Didn't know about the dangers of wheel landing = loss of controls. Fiery Lady those 109's.

[Sutts]

Great looking effects Oleg, well done. Really appreciate you removing those big night time reflections we saw last week too...a great improvement thanks.

I too would like to see the day time effects toned down a bit if possible please. Would also be nice if some kind person could post a video of an aero engine running rich with those yellow flames (after startup that is).

The 109 and 110 look so good! Really quite stunning. Landscape colours look very nice too.

Appreciate the update as always.

[dflion]

Thanks Oleg,

It is very good to see you quickly implementing the forum members feedback into the flight sim, it makes us all feel a strong part of everything you are doing.

The exhaust flames look really good, day and night and will add immensely to the realism of the sim.

DFLion

[Biggs [CV]]

Originally Posted by C_G

Noticing that most of the pictures seem to have been taken at dusk (or dawn), to make the flames more visible in the screenshots? Perhaps in full daylight it's more difficult to see them? The bf-109 shots are taken in full daylight however, and are equally "bright"...

Good point. No way you should be able to see exhaust flames in broad daylight, dusk and dawn yes.