Daidalos Team's Room -QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS ONLY on IL2 Authorized Addons

[Furio]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

I brought up this thread with fellow EOD/armament personnel at work, showing replies of TD regarding bombs. Verdict: stop talking about things you know a squat of.

In theory, I agree. But the explosive experts probably don’t know a squat of simulation. The very same argument can be used about aerodynamics. For example, I’m not convinced at how the trim works in Il2. In real life it has mainly to do with stick forces, that can’t be modelled at all. I understand that to work efficiently with a sim has its own rules and requires its own competency.

[Qpassa]

Is expected some screenshots or something?
How is the progress of the bugfixing?
Thanks

[II/JG54_Emil]

Originally Posted by Furio

In theory, I agree. But the explosive experts probably don’t know a squat of simulation. The very same argument can be used about aerodynamics. For example, I’m not convinced at how the trim works in Il2. In real life it has mainly to do with stick forces, that can’t be modelled at all. I understand that to work efficiently with a sim has its own rules and requires its own competency.

lol
by that logic we don´t touch anything, since the process is so complicated that it might affect Idon´t know what.

In fact it is very simple.
This is what a FAB 500 looks like:

public class BombFAB500 extends com.maddox.il2.objects.weapons.Bomb
{

public BombFAB500()
{
}

static java.lang.Class _mthclass$(java.lang.String s)
{
return java.lang.Class.forName(s);
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException classnotfoundexception;
classnotfoundexception;
throw new NoClassDefFoundError(classnotfoundexception.getMes sage());
}

static
{
java.lang.Class class1 = com.maddox.il2.objects.weapons.BombFAB500.class;
com.maddox.rts.Property.set(class1, "mesh", "3do/arms/fab-500/mono.sim");
com.maddox.rts.Property.set(class1, "radius", 250F);
com.maddox.rts.Property.set(class1, "power", 275F);
com.maddox.rts.Property.set(class1, "powerType", 0);
com.maddox.rts.Property.set(class1, "kalibr", 0.678F);
com.maddox.rts.Property.set(class1, "massa", 500F);
com.maddox.rts.Property.set(class1, "sound", "weapon.bomb_std");
}
}

Relevant here is the highlighted/bold passage that needs to be adjusted to a credible or even better a historical value.

[JtD]

Blablabla, personal attacks, blablabla.

Is it so hard to provide data for something you want to see changed?

"This is wrong, fix it." does not work.

"Here's what it historically looked like." is the important part. And that's what still is missing.

Or how about proving the game workings with the "range" by blowing up a dozen cars from 500m away with a FAB 1000? Doesn't work? Oh boy, if only it had been tested before starting a debate.

[dFrog]

Originally Posted by JtD

Is it so hard to provide data for something you want to see changed?

Is it so hard to provide data for in-game values ? I'd like to know where the TD's ultimate truth came from...

[JtD]

Originally Posted by dFrog

Is it so hard to provide data for in-game values ? I'd like to know where the TD's ultimate truth came from...

Do you have the game? Why don't you test for yourself?

[dFrog]

You do not understand. I'd like to know their sources of data they implement into the game. Books, graphs, etc.

[EnsignRo]

I have a small request for Ju87's 37mm cannon effects...because there is a small difference between ones in game and real ones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU6OK...layer_embedded

[JtD]

Originally Posted by dFrog

You do not understand. I'd like to know their sources of data they implement into the game. Books, graphs, etc.

You should ask 1C Maddox games, not TD.

[II/JG54_Emil]

Originally Posted by JtD

Blablabla, personal attacks, blablabla.

Is it so hard to provide data for something you want to see changed?

"This is wrong, fix it." does not work.

"Here's what it historically looked like." is the important part. And that's what still is missing.

Or how about proving the game workings with the "range" by blowing up a dozen cars from 500m away with a FAB 1000? Doesn't work? Oh boy, if only it had been tested before starting a debate.

You think it´s bla bla?:



And since you still might think this is only bla bla, a bit more plastic comparing SC1000 with FAB1000:



I think the last example makes quite clear why 555kg explosives in a FAB1000 shouldn´t cause such a big difference in blast radius compared to 630kg in a SC1000.