Friday 2010-12-03 Dev. update and Discussion

[nearmiss]

Klem

You have made some very good points.

Oleg may be able to address your concerns. Possibly a while after the initial release with an enlarged map, which could release as a patch.

Then again, for security reasons the actual map for BOB SOW may not be what we are seeing in the screenshots. Afterall, the SOW is about the Battle of Britain. It just doesn't make sense for a BOB to not have all the groups covered.

Afterall, many users already have large amounts of ram, high performance video cards, and multi-processors. It has been my understanding the map sizes have been restricted principally to allow persons with lower spec systems to use the sim.

[Bearcat]

If this sim is like IL2 was I will not be surprised it it will run fine off a dual core something or other with DDR 400 RAM and -4 generation video card.. at toned down settings of course..

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

Klem

You have made some very good points.

Oleg may be able to address your concerns. Possibly a while after the initial release with an enlarged map, which could release as a patch.

Then again, for security reasons the actual map for BOB SOW may not be what we are seeing in the screenshots. Afterall, the SOW is about the Battle of Britain. It just doesn't make sense for a BOB to not have all the groups covered.

Afterall, many users already have large amounts of ram, high performance video cards, and multi-processors. It has been my understanding the map sizes have been restricted principally to allow persons with lower spec systems to use the sim.

Oh NO!! Just when it had all been sorted! (nearly)

I can't see that being the case Nearmiss. Are you suggesting that you were hoping for the map to go all the way to Scotland (and presumably then include Norway too - sorry that old Norwegian horse has been flogged pretty hard by me these last few days ), to cover anywhere that saw ANY action at all in the BOB?

(I believe the first German aircraft to be shot down in Britain was up north [either Scotland or north of England?])

Or, do you mean that it should just include the SW and up to the midlands?

There are a lot of cities to include in a bigger map - if they're all going to be done to the same standard as London it's going to take a LONG time, and for what real benefit? How many times will people re-enact a raid on Hull?

Also, the secrecy argument has been used a few times before by people who have a hard time believing that their personal idea of what the game would be isn't going to happen. I don't buy it.

By the way, where is Oleg when we need him?

[FlatSpinMan]

Hopefully not bothering reading the last 5 or so pages.

[JG52Krupi]

Lol well said.

I understand why some ppl are frustrated, Oleg should say something on this as clearly some of us were expecting a larger map.

Personally I would have liked the south west to be present but I'm not too bothered.

[Insuber]

I would happily play this game with the present map. Just give it us asap, please.

[brando]

Originally Posted by flatspinman

hopefully not bothering reading the last 5 or so pages.

+100%

[JAMF]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

Then again, for security reasons the actual map for BOB SOW may not be what we are seeing in the screenshots. Afterall, the SOW is about the Battle of Britain. It just doesn't make sense for a BOB to not have all the groups covered.

Let's hope they still have the map as "in development" because, as it was pointed out in another forum, the Basin de l'Atlantique wasn't built till after the war.

Center of image: Harbour to the left of Dunkirk


"Today" : Harbour roadstead to the left, docks to the right, near city centre


Aerial '44. Harbour and sea access near city centre. Would overlay the image above to the right quarter.

[Asheshouse]

That 1944 aerial image looks awfully similar to the details on an il2 map which I've seen somewhere.

[Rodolphe]

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First of all I would like to thank Oleg and his team for this interesting glimpse of the FMB and Map.

Originally Posted by JAMF

Let's hope they still have the map as "in development" because, as it was pointed out in another forum, the Basin de l'Atlantique wasn't built till after the war.

@JAMF
This issue could be more complex to solved.


Anachronism and map

Years ago, when the '1946' title became available, the included 'Bonus' DVD allowed us to discover the early phases of development of the so eagerly-awaited BoB SoW.

Among other subject, that video uncovered the dev'team members at their respective 'Battle station", depicting some of the today well-known aircraft, vehicles, buildings, miscellaneous objects and map.

With one scene, we could overlooked Maxim K', working on the South-East Canterbury area with the Map Builder tool.



At that time I was a little worried about the referential map data used to create the in-game map. For example, the M2/A2, the motorway connecting Dover to London was depicted (in red on the above picture) on the referential map which most certainly confirmed the use of a modern, post WWII map edition. Hopefully this motorway is not represented on the game map. ; ))




Last summer, the BoB SoW July 09th update, the following screenshot had a first example of anachronism with the existence of the King George VI Reservoir (opened only in November 1947) .







With this update, I still have some worries with the publication of the latest screenshots.

Let's have a look on the rapidly expending post war urbanization of towns and cities and compare the extract of this Ordnance Survey of Great Britain 1940's edition map with the BoB SoW Map.





We can observe the quite larger brown cities areas of the future game map compared to the original 1940'S map.


A closer look at the town of Southend






Now I go back to my armchair next to the open fire with a wonderfull feeling of drowsy tranquillity.

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