tessellation

[T}{OR]

While this is all nice and true, you have to consider the fact that IL2 ran and still runs better on nVidia cards. And that Oleg didn't mention anything about holding a presentation for ATI/AMD this month.

The best answer and suggestion is - wait for the game (or game specs) to come out.

At the end of November, both ATI and nVIDIA will release their new top of the line cards...THe 6900 series for ATI and the GTX580 for nVIDIA...

nVIDIA is supposed to have a new desing that is aiming at gaming, so faster AND cooler, and ATI uses same technologie as 6800, but more of it on a single card....

Will see !

Salute !

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by He111

ok, I'm looking at buyinga new rig and just looked at some bench tests of NVidia V ATI graphics cards, showing nVidia have Tessellation down pat while ATI have been left behind! Question, will Tessellation be important in SOW? the answer to this question will guide me whether to go nVidia or ATI.

I have the same question on my mind, and am waiting for the new cards to come out, and for the details on the game. I think tesselation should be important in a game like this, that hasn't been made for a console, but we'll have to wait and see what the developers were able to do.

Originally Posted by kalimba

At the end of November, both ATI and nVIDIA will release their new top of the line cards...THe 6900 series for ATI and the GTX580 for nVIDIA...

nVIDIA is supposed to have a new desing that is aiming at gaming, so faster AND cooler, and ATI uses same technologie as 6800, but more of it on a single card....

I don't think the Cayman cards (69xx series) are expected to be the same technology as Barts (68xx series).

If you're after a top of the line card, you really have to wait until both sides release their cards, and if it is primarily for BoB, try and hold out for more information from Oleg.

[Les]

ATI have announced new 6900 series cards coming out before the end of the year, and details are emerging of a GTX580 from nVidia early next year, which is when the latest rumours suggest BOB will be out. So if you're into the latest and greatest, I'd say wait and see, or just get something to tide you over until then (ATI or a GTX260 with after-market cooling).

You might want to consider too though, even if BOB does make great use of tesselation (who knows, it could be used on the water, maybe even the coastline), chances are even the next generation cards from both camps won't be able to crank it right up and give you good frame-rates. That was the case with the Il-2 series when new graphical enhancements were introduced (with the Pacific Fighters release IIRC), so there is a precedent, and it makes sense that a brand new game in a new series is going to be ahead of the hardware curve for at least a while, if they don't want their game looking too dated too soon.

It should still be playable on pretty much all current hardware, but it's highly unlikely you'll be able to max it out until at least a year or two from now, at which point they'll probably introduce some new hardware-choking enhancements and the cycle will go on. So if you're really serious about buying a rig that will be tailored around BOB, right now is not the time to be doing it. That's how it seems to me anyway.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by T}{OR

While this is all nice and true, you have to consider the fact that IL2 ran and still runs better on nVidia cards[...]

If that's a fact, I want a sauce!

Apart from a few months this year when a new driver version was incomparable, IL2 has run perfectly on my last three ATI cards.

ed: ran allright on my old Voodoo3 as well

[Chivas]

He didn't say ATI couldn't run IL-2.

[LoBiSoMeM]

I had ATI and NVIDIA cards during the almost 10 years of IL2 lifespan, and it runs fine in both brands...

As any other PC game in modern VGAs... Pointless discussion! Today, IL-2 will runs better in better ATI card if you compare with a weak NVIDIA card, and will runs better in one better NVIDIA card if you have an old ATI card, as any game out there...

But even today, with x64 OS, lots of RAM, faster HDs, multicore processors, +1GB VGAs, people still disabling Vsync in "ATI cards" to prevent "ATI stutters"... Really strange logic!!!

I can run Il-2 1946 using an ATI HD4850 with just 512MB, with Vsync, AAX8, AFX16, 1680X1050, etc, without any stutter, just using a good amount of ram and a fast processor... Amd the "water" is the same as an NVIDIA card...

The big bottleneck in IL-2, as in ANY good flight sim, is the CPU. Any decent and strong VGA can run IL-2 really OK, and probably will run BoB...

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Chivas

He didn't say ATI couldn't run IL-2.

T.}{.O.R did say it didn't run it as well.
That's not my experience at all, so I am curious.

[Baron]

NVidia GTX 580 will most likely be released next week.(9th of November)


http://www.gnd-tech.com/main/content...d-Release-Date

I heard it's just a paper launch to get people off buying the new Ati 69**