Patch 4.10 - Development Updates by Daidalos Team

[KWM_Schnaps]

Dear DT,
just as many of my little friends over here, I take a look a day to get news.
And I read really many speculations about the reasons for you not releasing 4.10 patch. Some crazy, some funny. But too many, anyway.
May I respectfully suggest that you post an update.
Some kind of a "read-me submitted (or not), debugging underway or archive compilation underway, or ...." so we can have a rest with these speculations.
Many thanks in advance.

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by daidalos.team

It's going fine. We would like to post the user guide PDF as dev. update as soon as Oleg gives final approval for it.

User guide = full feature list plus own chapters for new planes, main features and everything else that need explaining.

Poor naive users

[flying]

Gentlmem,You have talked too much about 4.10,But,TD didn't ignore you!

[BadAim]

If DT did post something, it would be so buried in all this crap that we'd never be able to find it anyway.

The reason DT doesn't post is that they don't have anything to say that they have not said already, and they have the sense to stfu when they don't have anything to say. That is a fact...........

[d165w3ll]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Given the amount of work that DT have already put in to the 4.09 and 4.10 patches, the idea that they won't release 4.10 is utterly ridiculous: they've already told us that it is in the final debugging stages, and that Oleg is looking at the Guide to give final approval.

The extent they will be inclined to do more after this patch is possibly questionable, given the attitude of some of the ungrateful whining brats who frequent this forum, who clearly think their clueless drivel is of any significance. It isn't. Nothing you say is going to make anything happen sooner, though keep it up and things may not happen at all.

Pretty much agree with you. The full 4.09 patch was an astonishing bonus, which I had fair given up on ever seeing. But then I looked back on the fora after a gap of about a year and hey presto, this mysterious cabal of fab fanatics Team Daidalos had materialised and, in a rush of enthusiasm, had completed the patch - the file growing from the beta by around a half in the process. I was - and remain - in clover. I love the Me 410 and fly it almost exclusively. Thank you TD for including it - and the modellers for creating it.

I what they may now be regretting as wild optimism, TD then published an intention to supply a regularly-spaced sequence of further patches. The projected content of 4.10 seems to have grown enormously since then and fair gobbled up their projected timetable. It sounds almost like as serious a step-change as from FB+AEP+PF to 1946.

We cannot complain at all. I suspect though that TD may be slightly regretting not better managing expectations. Another contributor recently asked TD whether they could state when the patch will NOT be issued - as in "not this week" or "not before Christmas", for example. There may be some mileage in this approach.

[Barnowl]

d165w3ll wrote
" I love the Me 410 and fly it almost exclusively. Thank you TD for including it - and the modellers for creating it."

I do not remember this aircraft in 4.09, isn't it a mod?

[rjhill899]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

The extent they will be inclined to do more after this patch is possibly questionable, given the attitude of some of the ungrateful whining brats who frequent this forum, who clearly think their clueless drivel is of any significance. It isn't. Nothing you say is going to make anything happen sooner, though keep it up and things may not happen at all.

I do not see ungrateful whining brats, I see people that have been fans of the game that were told it would be released in a certain time period stating the obvious. Just because someone is doing it on their Free Time does not mean you cannot state your disappointment of their project management skills.

[AndyJWest]

Well, the whiners are presumably doing it in their own free time too, so I don't see why I shouldn't state my disappontment at the forum being spammed by them.

I expect TD are disapponted that they made the mistake of giving a release date. No doubt they could have released something at that date if they absolutely had to. Would you have been happier if they had? With the consequent bugginess and lack of features this would have entailed?

It has already been pointed out countless times that a significant reason for the delay was through being given access by 1C:Maddox to new tools enabling them to perform patch compilation etc themselves. Such new tools obviously require time to learn how to use to the best advantage.

The patch will also include features not originally scheduled for release.

[Avimimus]

Watch out - some people will be disappointed if you talk about "features not scheduled for the original release" and start complaining about how their fantasy's aren't fulfilled.

There are way more features than I'd have expected. They've also included new aircraft at the last minute (Do-217, Fairies etc.)

[rjhill899]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Well, the whiners are presumably doing it in their own free time too, so I don't see why I shouldn't state my disappontment at the forum being spammed by them..

This statement is just plain stupid.

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

I expect TD are disapponted that they made the mistake of giving a release date. No doubt they could have released something at that date if they absolutely had to. Would you have been happier if they had? With the consequent bugginess and lack of features this would have entailed?

No, it is the lack of communication that is the problem.

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

It has already been pointed out countless times that a significant reason for the delay was through being given access by 1C:Maddox to new tools enabling them to perform patch compilation etc themselves. Such new tools obviously require time to learn how to use to the best advantage.

The patch will also include features not originally scheduled for release.

Which is where project management comes in to play also.

No disrespect is intended here, but it is not our fault something was promised at a certain point in time and not delivered. TD does not have to do this, but they chose to. They gave a time line and yes, most of the time there will be problems and delays. I think everyone understands that. What they do not understand is why very few updates about the status are being posted.
And to answer the questions i know will follow this, yes, the words Still testing would be fine.