Friday 2010-10-15 Dev. update and Discussion

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Not really.. not for us at least.. now WoP is best.. the old bird in the hand.. but once we finally get our mitts on SoW....

Questions that to understand what is important for you:

1. Stylish colors in game with overbumped textures
2. Unprecise models and cockpits (most part of which are direct port from old Il-2)
3. Simplified comparing to original Il-2 FM, DM, AI
4. Non historical use of aircraft
5. Absence of realistic weapon
6. non interesting online.

or

1. Correct pallete and more close to real things colors at different time of the day and canges with alitude with modeling of physics for these processes
2. Precise models and completely new precise cockpits that will set new standards in industry of military fligth sims how it was done by original Il-2 in 2001 for a years ahead
3. More complex in calculations comparing to original Il-2 FM, DM (as well as its visuals), AI (that will do many things that were historical)
4. Historical use of aircraft and its loading (and its modeling in principle)
5. Realistic physics of weapons
6. interesting online


My opinion:

You try to name the best the game that has other target auditory... Say from 12 to 16, that is of course great part of players. Yes, it is very good game based on ortiginal Il-2 with better or say better some modern graphics features (mostly effects) than the original Il-2... But simplified in general in many ways.

In the oher hand we are doing for the 12 to 100 age... that I'm in hope will be again the reference for comparison like it was Il-2 for its time. But 100% sure at least with some of the most important for the combat fligth sim features it will be really reference for comparison for a long time.

Still even Il-2 series is a reference for many things. There is a lot of things that was present for the first time in the world and on the sim market. Still many things that makes this sim playable by many even no after so many years.

Lets will return back to this speech after a year of BoB on the market.

[mungee]

You tell 'em Oleg!! Hehe! I have no doubt that SoW will "set the bar" for many years to come.

Just something I need to ask you Oleg - I fear that it may already have been answered before ... if it has, I'm sorry!

It's the AI that SoW will have - in IL-2 one's squadron/section often/usually leaves one way behind in spite of one trying to maintain a gradual and reasonably fast ascent - not wanting to test the ol' Merlin too much before she overheats!!

In SoW will the AI and the individual player's airctaft be "closer" performance-wise. I understand that the AI in IL-2 was near-perfect (perfect trim etc) and that's why guys like me couldn't keep up!

Keep up the graet work - it gives so many of us so much pleasure! It must really make you feel good!

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by mungee

You tell 'em Oleg!! Hehe! I have no doubt that SoW will "set the bar" for many years to come.

Just something I need to ask you Oleg - I fear that it may already have been answered before ... if it has, I'm sorry!

It's the AI that SoW will have - in IL-2 one's squadron/section often/usually leaves one way behind in spite of one trying to maintain a gradual and reasonably fast ascent - not wanting to test the ol' Merlin too much before she overheats!!

In SoW will the AI and the individual player's airctaft be "closer" performance-wise. I understand that the AI in IL-2 was near-perfect (perfect trim etc) and that's why guys like me couldn't keep up!

Keep up the graet work - it gives so many of us so much pleasure! It must really make you feel good!

Can't tell you all details of AI. I would tell that it is more humanized in principle and doing very similar things to real things.

[Spudkopf]

How's the boy, is he feeling better yet has he lost his temperature?

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by Spudkopf

How's the boy, is he feeling better yet has he lost his temperature?

Its Ok, thanks, but I personally have no time at the moment to sit near him to play.
I just did for him several new simple missions where he can win with his entry level experience .

[furbs]

Glad your boy is feeling better Oleg, how is moscow, getting cold yet?

And also...is there a chance of a sound update this week?

[Spudkopf]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

Its Ok, thanks, but I personally have no time at the moment to sit near him to play.
I just did for him several new simple missions where he can win with his entry level experience .

Good to hear that he is on the mend, as that is the most important thing. Thank you also for taking the time out of your busy schedule to chat as well as it is much appreciated.

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Oleg, I too, flew over England this year and Furbs' shot is an accurate representation of the colours of the English landscape. I am not trying to be rude, but have you flown over England? I think, perhaps, we may be able to judge the best. Obviously as you say a camera won't give a 100% accurate representation, but from experience I think those of us who live in the country can give a good idea of how it looked.
The colours currently shown for SoW suggest a spring-look, where the fields are quite a lush green. In the summer of 1940, it was one of the hottest summers' on record, and the fields would have had a burnished look.
I do understand your theories of colour though; it will differen between each PC, but this is just my observation



Winny, there weren't rape-fields in England in 1940. I know you weren't saying there are, but I'm just pointing it out. It's interesting to compare a modern-day picture with one from 1940.

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

Yes I was in England say about 20 times and have a lot of my own photos, including from the air that I did myself.

zing!

Originally Posted by T.}{.O.R.

Who said anything about no protection at all?

I am just saying, and many people will and do agree with me - that what RoF had at the beginning was a mistake. And the fact you have to pay for every additional plane? Thats just rubbish.

A bad decision like this can kill the sales. Just like it was with the last Silent Hunter. Fortunately for RoF players, they came to their senses and now the game can be played offline. I won't even go into 'the release without the dedicated server debacle'...

inclined to agree with you thor. the having to log in online to play aspect was a pita at first, but tbh i don't even notice it now. having said that, i have a reliable connection.

the pay per plane thing is, unless you manage to catch a deal weekend where they go for a couple of dollars, a mistake. i think there's an update bundle going for $90. for a game.

paid updates, with maps, missions and planes? fine

not single aircraft though.

Originally Posted by speculum jockey

Dear Xilon_x, if spaghetti not have the tomato is negative.
Tomatoes are important factor to Italian food.
EXAMPLE look of tomato.
SPAGHETTI not exist if not have Tomato.
Tomato cooked or raw.


Spaghetti pot


oven control amount and intensity of heat.

**back to normal**

You just called Oleg Maddox an idiot! Not directly, but you just explained to a guy making a flight simulator that WIND IS IMPORTANT! Then you went on to explain that gliders need wind to fly. Maybe next you could tell him how to dress himself or tie his shoes. I'm sure he'd appreciate that as well.

except oleg's posts, this is the best in the thread.

Originally Posted by philip.ed

The clouds here look awesome.

seriously? cotton balls. the shading looks... overdone as well tbh, but is pretty good in comparison to say stock il2.

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

Its Ok, thanks, but I personally have no time at the moment to sit near him to play.
I just did for him several new simple missions where he can win with his entry level experience .

glad he's on the mend, and the training regime goes on - maintain interest with gradual increase in difficulty is the best way.

[Richie]

A pretty good video to see...

A great looking G2
Pilot size for the 109 up close
Views of England from the air.


http://s1200.photobucket.com/albums/...andEngland.mp4

[Dano]

BoB on the left, WoP on the right

http://stilettorevolt.com/2009/08/re...-before-after/