Friday 2010-10-15 Dev. update and Discussion

[Oleg Maddox]

[QUOTE=Xilon_x;189994]Sorry Mr.OLEG MADDOX but real pilots of ww2 not have red or blue arrows for search enemy in the sky.

Real pilot use your eyes for search enemy in the sky.

I hope that those arrows are optional or the game simulation transform to arcade simulation.

il-2sturmovik 1946 not have arrows.
i remember CFS3 have the arrows.
/QUOTE]

Like it was in original Il-2 of 2001, then in Forgotten Battles, Ace Expancion Pack, Pacific Fightes and 1946 - there always was these arrows. Please pay attention and use other difficulty settings.
And again... You may switch them off... using other than settings for novices for outside views

In CFS3 was just one arrow in the center if I recall right. And its working by other way. As well as "onscreen radar" , etc

[Romanator21]

Don't waste your quality time with your son, getting wound-up about our dumb questions. We'll take care of that:

Some people just won't understand (chose not to understand?), even if you spell it out for them.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Wonderful update Oleg. Especially love the ground textures and the overall colors. The true feel of atmospheric perspective (especially in certain weather conditions) was what hit me immediately when I first started up IL2 back in 2005. It was a true shock after years of CFS3 and FS sims, and a realization how much they had failed in that department. I am confident to find all this again, and even better.

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

Wonderful update Oleg. Especially love the ground textures and the overall colors. The true feel of atmospheric perspective (especially in certain weather conditions) was what hit me immediately when I first started up IL2 back in 2005. It was a true shock after years of CFS3 and FS sims, and a realization how much they had failed in that department. I am confident to find all this again, and even better.

Thanks!
Your words as the ARTman and photographer I accept considerably (hope you understand what I try to say in not native language.... )

But be sure we will have it better

[Qpassa]

the quality of this screenshots, have increased a lot, thanks

[furbs]

Oleg..first thanks for the update...i can see the landscape is getting better week by week, but can i ask about the colour of the fields in this weeks update.


By furbs9999 at 2010-10-15

I live in England and some of the colour of the fields ive never seen before, and the mix of fields next to each other is also something ive never seen, if this is just testing, then thats fine, but to me it doesnt remind me of southen England.


By furbs9999 at 2010-10-15
This is goodwood airfield at 2000ft in july, the landscape looks much darker with dark borders around the fields and much more green than the SOW landscape.
Are the colours of SOW going to finish looking more like this?

Thanks.

[Hatch]

Originally Posted by furbs

Oleg..first thanks for the update...i can see the landscape is getting better week by week, but can i ask about the colour of the fields in this weeks update.


By furbs9999 at 2010-10-15

I live in England and some of the colour of the fields ive never seen before, and the mix of fields next to each other is also something ive never seen, if this is just testing, then thats fine, but to me it doesnt remind me of southen England.


By furbs9999 at 2010-10-15
This is goodwood airfield at 2000ft in july, the landscape looks much darker with dark borders around the fields and much more green than the SOW landscape.
Are the colours of SOW going to finish looking more like this?

Thanks.

Not too sure about the photograph.

On my monitor(admittedly not calibrated for some time) the colours are slightly off.

It's allways a bit difficult to quantify perception, most people don't even know what they're seeing.
But often timesthey do know if something doesn't look right.
Or not if you judge by how awful the colours are on most TV sets LOL

Might be the time of day?

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by furbs

Oleg..first thanks for the update...i can see
I live in England and some of the colour of the fields ive never seen before, and the mix of fields next to each other is also something ive never seen, if this is just testing, then thats fine, but to me it doesnt remind me of southen England.

This is goodwood airfield at 2000ft in july, the landscape looks much darker with dark borders around the fields and much more green than the SOW landscape.
Are the colours of SOW going to finish looking more like this?

Thanks.

Look for the sample bellow. It was done from your sample using professiona photo tool Lightroom 3.2 which I trust very much.

By simple clicking of special White balance tool on the grey surface of this photo where it must be grey by definition of light laws we get more real picture that was when the camera did the shot.
I also can to restore contrast, but already this one action is enough to imagine...

The camera never get the right color. We may get it right only after we already did the shot by using some rules.
In the other hand the human eye never remember the right color...just close approxination... and when again we see the picture of the same place human thinking that it is right colors.... It is a nature of human eye to brain work.
I can't spend the time to teach for the laws in light and its representation from matrix of the modern camera (even professional). I would say only that thing: the shots that are done non in RAW format with using some rules that to restore later the right colors are always wrong. Be sure. JPEG opf cameras can't show right color in complex light conditions that are in the air on altitude comparing to the thing for which they are designed... (also even there are not right)

And answering your question I already told above - not final.

However looking for my sample how it was really (close to that sample) you should think about.... or take some tiome to search for the white balace and color/colorcontrast distortions in digital cameras (or film - some other sort but also with great distortions)

Only these developers that don't know these laws make the "right colors" of the world in their products ... Hope you understand what I said.

[Hatch]

Will we be able to adjust colour & whitebalance to adjust it our own particular distorted view of the world?

[furbs]

Thanks very much for the reply Oleg, i know the SOW screens are WIP and will be tuned until release, thats why im not too worried

Im just also thinking about the colours i see each day and when im out mountain biking through the countryside of southen England, to me it is much more green with dark colours.

Ive just never seen that mix of so many light and pastel colours of fields next to each other, the fields i see each day blend into each other more.

Anyway thanks again for the reply and looking forward very much to be flying over my home town.