Friday 2010-10-08 Dev. update and Discussion

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by zapatista

interesting picture

it looks indeed like a small pair of sunglasses attached to the goggles, which can be flipped up and out of the way when not needed. i suspect it is a personal pilots "mod" to better be able to look for the "hun in the sun", but i have never noticed it before in other historical photo's

Standard RAF C type helmet with MkVII googles:



Same rig with polarizing shield down:




The Mk IV goggles had similar flip down polarized lenses ( Mk IVb seen here on a type B helmet) ....




here is a D type with MkIIIa goggles note the MkIII and earlier did NOT have a flip up polarized shield:



This is a German LW LKpN101 III from the early 1940's (the N meant netting):



This LKpW 101 is rather interestingly combined for display with a steel helmet (M42 ?? ) :




There is an entire website devoted to Flying Helmets including RAF, LW, VVS and US ones:

http://www.flightgear.ch/index.htm



Well worth a look through.

[Jimko]

Thanks for that informative set of pictures, WTE_Galway. They certainly show the application!

In all these years of viewing pictures, I"ve never noticed the sunglasses before or seen them used. Remarkable!

[eaglerider]

Luftwaffe Flying Steel Helmet:

I stumbled upon this picture a few days ago. Here’s a fellow wearing one.
Some individual flight crews it seems took the initiative and used the Luftwaffe issued steel helmet to give them some protection from gun-shot and splinters.

[mungee]

I'm a bit "scared" to mention this on this forum because I suspect that it has been addressed in the AI behaviour improvements in SoW, but I presume that one will be able to keep up with one's flight in SoW?
I must say, on some '1946' missions, as much as speed off behind my leader on the runway, keep the ascent gradual, push the airplane as much as I can (subject to overheating etc) my flight disappears slowly, but surely, into the distance.

[SlipBall]

WTE_Galway good one! thanks

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

Standard RAF C type helmet with MkVII googles:

nice find, thx for posting

i have never noticed these before, but it looks like it might have been standard issue (not just for the tropics ?)

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by zapatista

nice find, thx for posting

i have never noticed these before, but it looks like it might have been standard issue (not just for the tropics ?)

Yes it was standard issue. The AM used the flipshield on all goggles after the Mark IV series cluminating in the mark VII's. (The goggles inbetween weren't goggles, but spectacles. If you're interested I can supply pictures)

This set, though, is not BoB.
A BoB set would consist of:

B-type helmet
D-type mask w/ type E carbon mic or type 19 mic (Tuck has the latter)
Mark II, III, IIIa, IV or IVa goggles (the latter 2 had flipshields that could be taken off)
I have not included spectacles here, as they were more common in coastal command, but if one was to take the spectacles into account, then the Mark V or Va would be BoB.