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Old 09-29-2010, 04:01 PM
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2. If you'd record an IL2-track in your high-end machine and sent it to me with above machine, your track would look the same crap as always, while it's great for you. I'd never know the difference and think my above rig is top-notch.
The same way, if I send you a soundrecord from my PC with a 200$ soundcard + 120$ hifi-headphones, you'll never know the difference, because the sound is rendered on your chip and displayed on your 10$ skype-headset.
I doubt it would make any difference what sound card you are using to make the recording, as long as it fully supports the sound engine of the game, it stays in an untouched digital format.

The main area where cheap soundcards fail/show their cheapness is with the DAC and output section of the card, which only concerns itself with putting a voltage out to the speakers or headphones.


The only reason to make use of soundcard hardware would be to free up the cpu, and its the same with graphics cards, theres nothing your GPU can do that your cpu couldn't in software, the problem is you would be playing your games at 1fps or less.
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:18 PM
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I think were all just hoping that a merlin sounds like a merlin , a db sounds like a db and so on and that when heard in a flyby the doppler is on the money and all the rest, how cheap or expensive your audio setup is has little to do with the above.
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:36 PM
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i think were all just hoping that a merlin sounds like a merlin , a db sounds like a db and so on and that when heard in a flyby the doppler is on the money and all the rest, how cheap or expensive your audio setup is has little to do with the above.
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Old 09-29-2010, 10:05 PM
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I think were all just hoping that a merlin sounds like a merlin , a db sounds like a db and so on and that when heard in a flyby the doppler is on the money and all the rest, how cheap or expensive your audio setup is has little to do with the above.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:09 AM
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I doubt it would make any difference what sound card you are using to make the recording, as long as it fully supports the sound engine of the game, it stays in an untouched digital format.
You missed the point.

If I sent you my professional record and you replay it with your cellphone, be sure it won't sound the same for me and you, though the digital format remains untouched either.
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Old 09-30-2010, 01:09 AM
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You missed the point.

If I sent you my professional record and you replay it with your cellphone, be sure it won't sound the same for me and you, though the digital format remains untouched either.
When i was a professional musician, whenever we made records we would always try to master the final cut version so it sounded good on all media, be it TV, radio or hi-end audio systems but mainly aimed at radio because this is where most people will first hear your track, this was far more difficult than you can imagine, how many times have you heard a track on the radio, then go and buy the cd to play it on your high end audio equipment only to be amazed at the difference. what sometimes sounds great on the radio can have a lot more 'top end' when played on high quality gear. Whenever i used to play the records i'd recorded to my mother and farther I used to wish that they had better equipment so they could hear it as it was supposed to sound.
I guess this is the difficulty Oleg will face in trying to make the sounds work on all sound card formats, but generally if you have quality amp/soundcard and quality speakers/headphones you should hear it in all its glory.

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Old 10-03-2010, 05:40 AM
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You missed the point.

If I sent you my professional record and you replay it with your cellphone, be sure it won't sound the same for me and you, though the digital format remains untouched either.
But if your cellphone had a digital out to a good stereo system then it would sound as good as the record... thats exactly the whole point everyone is trying to make.
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Old 10-03-2010, 11:25 AM
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But if your cellphone had a digital out to a good stereo system then it would sound as good as the record... thats exactly the whole point everyone is trying to make.

That is one of the most absurd remarks I have heard so far. Cellphones producing quality audio?!

Please do read before you post stuff like that.
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That is one of the most absurd remarks I have heard so far. Cellphones producing quality audio?!

Please do read before you post stuff like that.
Well he's right, if the cellphone in this case is reduced to a SSD, and the stero system has it's own sound processing unit.

Don't think he got it though.
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Old 10-03-2010, 01:27 PM
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Yes. Any musician and especially an audiophile will tell you that the requirements for a good sound system and sound by itself - are all components of an equal quality. Just like the chain - the weakest link is the problem here. Or in this case the cell phone.

If however, you could just read the data of the cell phone like from an SSD or HDD like you say, and then leave it for a stereo system to process and reproduce it, then we're talking about a different thing.

However, I doubt this is what amirite meant.
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