FW-200 fire origin is bizzare

[Flying Pencil]

Originally Posted by Skarphol

I think it is the gun, and the shadow of the gun.

And I think that the fuselage fuel tanks have been holed, the fuel has poured into the cabin and is now floating forward towards the cockpit while it is burning.

Skarphol

No, not shadow.
You can see the gun shadows under them, and yes, I see 2 shadows.


and I doubt 1C modeled the fuel to flow from the tanks to other parts, taking into account gravity.

Originally Posted by DB605

This is joke, right? I really hope it is...

It's serious.

You don't see film of real aircraft spurt fire from wing tips or top of rudder.
Most of those films show the origin right at the tanks and go aft, most times in a direct streak aft, not the red cotton balls you see on this.

[winny]

Originally Posted by Frantishek

It's serious.

You don't see film of real aircraft spurt fire from wing tips or top of rudder.
Most of those films show the origin right at the tanks and go aft, most times in a direct streak aft, not the red cotton balls you see on this.

It's not serious it's petty.. There could be over 20 aircraft on fire at the same time in this game.. Once again a screenshot is being taken apart, a WIP screenshot at that. This game has to do so much at any one time that to start getting so picky, over a flat lifeless still from an unfinished computer game, (of which this is probably not even 1% of the work that's been done) is, frankly pointless. (I think that proper historical errors should be pointed out on here because that's important.)
But we've had the colour of the sea is wrong, the colour of the grass is wrong, the fire's wrong, the smoke's wrong, the pilot's wrong, the pilot's hitler... the list goes on. The majority of it seems to be about egos on this forum (I'm fairly new to it, most of my posts are on BoP forum)

Then I'm reduced to reading shit like 'I've lived in England all my life and this grass is too green' posted by someone to justify their opinion, when all they needed to say was I think the grass is too green (the devs are quite clever and if they hadn't already noticed this then he may well have saved the day!)

It's a joke.

There's a much bigger picture that we are simply not going to see until we see SoW move... Then you can all start slagging it off proper.

[philip.ed]

What is wrong in someone expressing their views? Why post screenshots and not expect discussion? This is all info that Oleg and the team can take into consideration. if you don't like what's been written, then don't read it again. People can post what they like if it's aviation related.

[winny]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

What is wrong in someone expressing their views? Why post screenshots and not expect discussion? This is all info that Oleg and the team can take into consideration. if you don't like what's been written, then don't read it again. People can post what they like if it's aviation related.

I have no problem with people expressing views. You have a point about the grass. I'm not one for censorship either. I'm just pointing out that there are better ways to get your point across. Sorry for singleing you out but I just found it bizarre that you had to justify your opinion by stating that you were an englishman. You're a regular poster and I'm sure that if the devs were not aware of the problem of the grass coulour, that if you'd just said 'I think the grass is too green', they would look and think oh ok. I would never have mentioned it otherwise. I was using it as an example of where this forum is at.

[philip.ed]

Regarding grass colour; being English doesn't matter. It's living in the country and seeing the grass every-day I'd never say I am English in a boastful way

But yes, the tone of the thread may be quite 'in your face', but it's quite an interesting subject that's been raised IMO.

[Meusli]

Originally Posted by winny

I have no problem with people expressing views. You have a point about the grass. I'm not one for censorship either. I'm just pointing out that there are better ways to get your point across. Sorry for singleing you out but I just found it bizarre that you had to justify your opinion by stating that you were an englishman. You're a regular poster and I'm sure that if the devs were not aware of the problem of the grass coulour, that if you'd just said 'I think the grass is too green', they would look and think oh ok. I would never have mentioned it otherwise. I was using it as an example of where this forum is at.

I know where you are coming from though so no need to back down on this. It seems that people find issues every week just to spout some assine comment that makes them feel better. The worst ones are the people who repeat whats wrong with colour after Oleg/Luthier said it was WIP and not to worry about it. The best thing to do is ignore these people like Oleg does as if you notice he does reply to good posts but never to this nonsense.

[Sven]

What´s all this fuzz about?? He just wants to point out that the flames seem to be generated by the pilot´s seat, which is of course not the source for so much fire. Looking to the scale model it shows that the fuel tanks are placed some more in the aft of the plane. I´m no expert when it comes to planes on fire, and hopefully will never become, but maybe its intersting to know what sources near the pilot could cause so much fire.. maybe oxygen bottles?

[winny]

Originally Posted by Sven

What´s all this fuzz about?? He just wants to point out that the flames seem to be generated by the pilot´s seat, which is of course not the source for so much fire. Looking to the scale model it shows that the fuel tanks are placed some more in the aft of the plane. I´m no expert when it comes to planes on fire, and hopefully will never become, but maybe its intersting to know what sources near the pilot could cause so much fire.. maybe oxygen bottles?

If this was a photograph of a real Fw-200 then all of these questions would be valid. However, this is what happens to an FW-200 in SoW when it catches fire, because that's how they've programed it, and, no doubt, the countless other aircraft in the game. the fire has to be able to happen at anytime and any number of times during a game. To expect 100% photorealistic flames on demand, on top of everything else this sofware has to do is stupid. To then take it down to what's flammable and whats not inside the individual aircraft is again a symptom of unrealistic expectations and pointless over-complications that seem the norm.

I can still tell the difference between a million dollar hollywood CGI explosion and a real explosion. Your expectations are too high.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by winny

Your expectations are too high.

And then some.



And Oleg? Hes only made a living of of this for decades so what the hell does he know, right?

[Flying Pencil]

Originally Posted by winny

If this was a photograph of a real Fw-200 then all of these questions would be valid. However, this is what happens to an FW-200 in SoW when it catches fire, because that's how they've programed it, and, no doubt, the countless other aircraft in the game. the fire has to be able to happen at anytime and any number of times during a game. To expect 100% photorealistic flames on demand, on top of everything else this sofware has to do is stupid. To then take it down to what's flammable and whats not inside the individual aircraft is again a symptom of unrealistic expectations and pointless over-complications that seem the norm.

I can still tell the difference between a million dollar hollywood CGI explosion and a real explosion. Your expectations are too high.

And your expectations are too low.

Most of the people in this forum have seen films of REAL aircraft on fire, with the poor souls on board, going down. They have a good idea what it looks like.

Storm of War is a game/sim based on REALITY. To shortcut major effects like a realistic fire effect destroys the simulated reality this game tries to deliver, and what you, me, and everyone else will pay a huge amount for (including price of hardware).

You, winny, are in NO position to make a judgment call on this, nor am I to insist it should be done different. It's completely up to Oleg and team to decide if it's good or needs more polish.

If you disagree with me, make it brief, don't fill out topics with useless chatter wasting everyone time to read it, including Oleg's.

Thank you.