The Blue Sun Mod

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Originally Posted by Ninja2dan

And which "Zastava" weapons are you talking about? I can't really remember there being any in the game. All of their weapons were just clones of other weapon systems. The M76 was a modified clone of the SVD. The M70 series were just AK-47 clones. The M84 was cloned after the PK series. Why have the original weapon systems and then add duplicate copies with the only difference in game being the item name?

So, in your words the game should have only one handgun, only one SMG, only one shotgun, only one assault rifle, only one sniper rifle and only one MG, because IN YOUR WORDS they're all copies of each other and they're so similar to each other that it's not worth having diversity, guns of different makers.

If you feel that way about variants of the AK-47 I am curious what you think about the variants of the M-16 that are in this game and about the fact that there ARE multiple variants of the AK already in the game... Do you find them superfluous also? After all, the M4 is only a shortened M16, not to mention the Colt AR-15.

Why then does the vanilla game already, not to mention this mod, have so many weapons that are practically a copy of each other with only small variants? Why the mini UZI and micro UZI when there's already the regular UZI? Why AN-94 when there's already AK-47 and AK-74? Why RPK when there's already RPD? Why all the SKS copies? Why all the handguns that are so similar to each other and yet very few people actually keep using them after they get their hands on rifles and SMGs?

I'm sorry, but your argument is null and void, defeated by the game and the mod themselves.

Originally Posted by Ninja2dan

I have personally fired nearly every Zastava firearm in production as well as their "parent" firearm that they were cloned after. And from personal experience, they performed no better or worse. That was just a false rumor started by people from Yugoslavia, simply because it was "their firearm". Just like Americans claim that American cars are best, or Japanese claim that their electronics are best. People will almost always prefer a product made in their home country, and claim it as being better out of pride. Nothing against anyone from those countries, Yugoslavian firearms were not of poor quality. But I just never saw anything that would say they were better either.

PLEASE tell me you're just making a joke. Cause that would be the dumbest thing to EVER say.

I'm no weapons expert, BUT even I know that not only do weapons vary from one version to the next, but also individual weapons vary between each other. no weapon is exactly the same as the next...

Hell, even Jane's agree with that... a couple of decades ago they had a huge test, comparing the Kalashnikov to it's copies, variants, improved copies,... You know which were the two best? Zastava and the original AK-47.

Which means other AK copies were worse than these two, which means that AK copies not all are the same.

If you actually ever used all those AK copies you claim, you definitely wouldn't go around claiming all are the same, unless you're a total US patriot, with a flag pole in your front yard and your every second sentence would be "American stuff is the best and everything else is crap". Many US soldiers rather used the AKs they took from captured or dead enemies in Nam than use the M16, if they were allowed/able to.

My country's armament was a mix of Yugoslavian, Eastern European, Asian, Russian, etc. weapons (now we have that Belgian shit that breaks in the cold and the jams have to be fixed in an armory by a trained armorer; instead of easily in the field by the soldier himself as it was with Zastavas). In my own fireteam we had guns of different makers. I personally had a Zastava M70AB2 made in 1989, a couple of my mates had Romanian copies of AK, one's was newer than mine. We naturally compared our guns.

The difference between them was huge. Not only was the build quality of my gun better (like comparing a Mercedes to a Polski FIAT, everything was better from the metal to the furniture), it was more accurate, more powerful and more reliable.

To sum it up: no, AK and it's copies are not all the same and, YES, Yugoslavians DID have the right to claim our "AKs" were better than those of other countries.