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Old 07-02-2010, 06:09 PM
Wildnoob Wildnoob is offline
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"A thing that I always found difficult to master in Il2 is the trim.

In real world airplanes, you fix the speed with the stick or yoke, and then you use the trim to reduce stick force. When the stick force is zero, the plane is trimmed for that speed.

As most joysticks don’t have stick force, this method cannot be implemented, but there are surely other systems. The simplest that comes to my mind is to fix the speed with joystick, and then have a button or key that adopt this as the trim speed.
Please, considerate this TD.

IL2 pilots must be able to cruize comfortably.

Make's no sense we have a sim, which the objective is try do simulate the reality and have a basic flight procedure more difficulty then in RL. The current trim system is really uncomfortable.

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Old 07-02-2010, 10:23 PM
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Please, considerate this TD.

IL2 pilots must be able to cruize comfortably.
Who said that?

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Make's no sense we have a sim, which the objective is try do simulate the reality and have a basic flight procedure more difficulty then in RL. The current trim system is really uncomfortable.
The reality is not, that you just have to push a button and your plane is flying straight as you wish. Furthermore most planes do not have trim on all axis, while some have. Would be a bit unlogic to me that all planes should have such a feature then.
I don't think, its uncomfortable as it is now, nor is it unrealistic. Approach your cruise speed and adjust separate trim axis and you are fine - as you would do in RL.
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Old 07-03-2010, 02:30 AM
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I have actual flying experience and the trim in IL2 seems fine to me. I understand what is being said, but because our pc joysticks are not actually connected to an aircraft its the best solution for now, just trim until the VSI is at 0 and you are holding the cruise attitude. Not all aircraft have in-flight adjustable trim, some only have elevator trim and some have no in-flight adjustable trim. Most of the US aircraft have all axis adjustable trim, whereas some of the british and german fighters like spits, tempests and 109's have only in-flight adjust on the elevator trim. Now that being said, some aircraft have trim tabs on the control surface (ailerons) which are adjusted outside of the aircraft before flight, and this I'm sure was the case with spits and 109's.

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Old 07-02-2010, 06:52 PM
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I'm not directly allowed and further more, I'm not the optimal person to speak about it, as it wasn't made by me at all.

Just as much as... you will have to be carefull with WEP and even flying 100% all the time.
I hope this doesnt make the gap even bigger between the strong radial engine La's and other inferior fighters.

Note that inferior planes are the ones who need to push their engine to the max to compete...
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