Patch 4.10 - Development Updates by Daidalos Team

[F19_lacrits]

For a second there when looking at the change of gun sights on the I-15bis I thought TD were using 6DOF.. But looking at it again it seems looking at a certain angle it's possible to change between the three gun sights..right?
(I'll have to continue dreaming of official 6DOF capability in IL2 I guess *sigh*)

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by F19_lacrits

For a second there when looking at the change of gun sights on the I-15bis I thought TD were using 6DOF.. But looking at it again it seems looking at a certain angle it's possible to change between the three gun sights..right?
(I'll have to continue dreaming of official 6DOF capability in IL2 I guess *sigh*)

Those are just 3 different predefined camera positions for each gunsight. No 6DOF. I-15bis cockpit was modeled with this feature in mind, so it doesn't have holes and gaps, unlike virtually all pre-4.09 cockpits do. And that is the reason, why 6DOF haven't been yet implemented officially.

[OberstDanjeje]

Thanks guys, great work!!!
Glad to see some facelift for the Bf110, hope more Bf110 will come.

[Fafnir_6]

Originally Posted by OberstDanjeje

Thanks guys, great work!!!
Glad to see some facelift for the Bf110, hope more Bf110 will come.

+1

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by Fafnir_6

+1

let me guess, a flyable Bf110C is off limits for IL2 because of SoW , like Spit I, flyable Blenheim, "real" MTO maps, Channel map....................................
even as the Bf110 units, small in numbers, were so important 1941-42 in their groundattack role at the easternfront

[daidalos.team]

We have been looking thoroughly into 6DoF capability, but given the current limitations, we will not introduce full 6DoF unless two conditions are met/solved:

1. Cockpit 3D modelling is repaired for those cockpits that are not 6DoF compatible (= huge rework)
2. The 6DoF is enabled for all players, even for those without TrackIR to keep fair situational awarness conditions for everyone.

At the moment 6DoF development is on hold. We may take a second look after 4.10.

[F19_lacrits]

Originally Posted by daidalos.team

We have been looking thoroughly into 6DoF capability, but given the current limitations, we will not introduce full 6DoF unless two conditions are met/solved:

1. Cockpit 3D modelling is repaired for those cockpits that are not 6DoF compatible (= huge rework)
2. The 6DoF is enabled for all players, even for those without TrackIR to keep fair situational awarness conditions for everyone.

At the moment 6DoF development is on hold. We may take a second look after 4.10.

First, I didn't mean as sounding negative with my comment. I am very very excited and happy for all the work TD is and have been putting out for IL2!

I very much understand point no 1. There are alot of glitches in the 3D models from a 6DOF point of view.. Just look back over the tail of a Ki-61 Hei with modded 6DOF.. there is none!
I don't understand point no 2. You must mean ".. is available for all players"? It can't be that you won't release 6DOF capability until all and every one has head tracking as standard equipment.. ! If though that is the intention, then we are already off on the wrong foot; not all have head tracking gear, not all has HOTAS controls, not all has PC hardware to maintain a smooth game play at all levels and detail of grafix.. etc.. It's up to the "user" to make use of features IMO.

[jermin]

This update made my day. Congrats, TD!

Does it mean that you can rework (not repaint) the cockpits models of some early planes like Bf-109 and P-47 which have ugly interiors in the future?

[Viikate]

Originally Posted by F19_lacrits

I don't understand point no 2. You must mean ".. is available for all players"? It can't be that you won't release 6DOF capability until all and every one has head tracking as standard equipment..

No no... More like there needs to be a way to achieve 6DoF features with mouse for example. This shouldn't be the hard part IMHO.

[daidalos.team]

@Lacrits: Hello, I didn't take it as negative comment, no worries. Just wanted to answer briefly.

Some graphical glitches are minor, some are more serious as you have pointed out. Some may not give you a visual advantage, some may.

As for the second point, in my opinion 6DoF view (in any sim not just IL-2) should be available to everyone through some alternative hardware control - either TrackIR, mouse, keyboard. It should not be only limited to TrackIR 6DoF device. In other words, in case someone doesn't have TIR, he should be able to make the same head movements (though not as easily and comfortably as with TIR) through another input device.

Martin

EDIT: Viikate was faster.

Originally Posted by F19_lacrits

First, I didn't mean as sounding negative with my comment. I am very very excited and happy for all the work TD is and have been putting out for IL2!

I very much understand point no 1. There are alot of glitches in the 3D models from a 6DOF point of view.. Just look back over the tail of a Ki-61 Hei with modded 6DOF.. there is none!
I don't understand point no 2. You must mean ".. is available for all players"? It can't be that you won't release 6DOF capability until all and every one has head tracking as standard equipment.. ! If though that is the intention, then we are already off on the wrong foot; not all have head tracking gear, not all has HOTAS controls, not all has PC hardware to maintain a smooth game play at all levels and detail of grafix.. etc.. It's up to the "user" to make use of features IMO.