SOW - with new DRM model by UBI ?

[nearmiss]

I wonder

What of Oleg was on a contract back in 2006 and terms required him to finish within 4 years, and if he wasn't finished Ubi would not publish without a new contract.

Oleg may have decided to just run down the clock and build an even better BOB SOW. Even he did eventually publish outside Russia with UBI he might make a much better financial deal.

Makes sense to me, not saying that is the case. Just a thought

[noxnoctum]

The irony is this may well drive people to not buy it and instead just pirate it (I'm sure the pirates will figure out a way around the DRM and make a "fix"... they always have in the past). So really it only screws over the legitimate customers.

I know I'm certainly considering that for SH5. I'll still buy it, because I want to support the developer, but I'll get a pirated copy too and use that as a backup in case my internet connection goes down so I can still play offline.

[Flanker35M]

S!

RoF now can be played offline too after last update

[noxnoctum]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

RoF now can be played offline too after last update

Wait, so is Ubi changing their DRM stance???

[Dano]

Originally Posted by noxnoctum

Wait, so is Ubi changing their DRM stance???

No, UBI have nothing to do with RoF.

However in the light of their latest DRM being cracked in something like 25 hours they may just need to revise it, my money is on them continuing to stick their heads inthe sand though.

[Avatar]

Wow, I had always thought that 1c had finally gotten away from UBI, especially after the Pacific Fighters BS they went through...

Like others here, I have finally said no to UBI's new type of DRM. I'm not against DRM but I am against having to be online all the time to play offline, just plain BS, IMHO. So if SoW comes with this form of DRM I will unfortunately have to pass, just like I am with SHV. I will not give the impression to the suits that I approve of this type of DRM in any way shape or form. I know too many people that can't play SHV just because of this requirement, e.g., military personnel stationed abroad on active duty, friends in remote, and not so remote places where their connections aren't reliable at all, etc. and UBI has made it abundantly clear in their statements that they don't care about people with those types of issues: "We think most people are going to be fine with it. Most people are always connected to an Internet connection." Well I guess their marketing guys need to learn a bit more and I hope they learn the hard way, and the only way they will learn and that's by losing money.

Unfortunately, people who say they are against this type of DRM but buy the game anyway stating they are "supporting the developers" are still sending the wrong message. The bean counters only look at the bottom line, how much money a title makes. They could care less if you agree with their chosen DRM or not, they only care if you buy their games. PERIOD!

[MikkOwl]

UbiSoft has plenty of people working for them. They have many different values and motives. But the owners and executives have one motive in common - they all want to get paid more. So that's how they act. Most corporations, as they are made up for more than a single owner, act on this one unifying motive.

If whatever they do brings in more money for them (or at least they think that it does) then they will conclude that this is a terrific idea. Losing some reputation is nothing if they percieve that they are either gaining more profit or that their profit decreased less than expected.

I too would love to have bought SH5 (I bought SH3 and SH4) and support this niche sim market, but it will NEVER, EVER happen if it is bundled with extra software designed in a way that significantly affects my ownership and use of the product they want to sell me. Moreover, it is fairly certain that they use it for very extensive data mining (monitoring and logging my personal profile + game usage patterns) for uses that might further profit them, and who knows what.

Buying this is not showing support for Silent Hunter, but showing support for this DRM (+ who knows what else) system. You are voting, with your money, sending a message to not just UbiSoft but everyone else saying "I like it, it works, and here's my money to prove it". Your forum word doesn't carry any weight if you still buy it.

I will never, ever buy Storm of War either if they try something similar. Requirement to be online to use their online gaming services (multiplayer on public servers they host) is Ok, but not for single player or playing with my friend on a LAN. There it steps into the "None of their business" zone.

If SoW did do this, then perhaps some other company will make a decent flight sim (maybe not WW2 but whatever), and I'm sure IL-2 will have increased lifespan and more improvements. And maybe some future release of a stand-alone addon to SoW will come along that doesn't have the DRM crap in it.