Black Knights, Solos all bosses, 300k+ Crits

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by eisiki

Black Knights
Able to solo all bosses on impossible with no losses
Do 300k+ Crits.
I believe that is a little overpowered It makes everything so useless in comparison. This imbalance probably should be addressed in a future patch.

Equipment: Black Knight Helmet(-20% leadership cost), staff of necromancy, & leadership scroll

Rage spent is zero? No chest digging whatsoever? Is this the trade off when using solo BKs since they are so slow?

I really don't understand why they should go "boring" solo. Why not use some support troops? At the very least you could add Bone Dragons to fetch for chests since whatever build you have for BKs would most likely benefit the undead dragons as well (Eviln, Staff of the Acolyte Necromancer, "Dark Commander", etc.).

Even if you add slow troops like Inquisitors, Gorguanas, Archmages, Demonologists, etc. you could always get the blue pet dragon. With "Dark Commander" level 3 you would have +2 initiative, an additional +1 from the blue pet dragon, and your Bone Dragons would most likely give you the first move. Then just Teleport level 3 your BKs to the enemy ranks.

At least this way you still get to fetch chests.

Btw, the best way to get Black Knights is via the wanderer scroll Call of Death. I'm still at the first 4 islands and I already have 9 wanderer scrolls, 2 of which are Call of Death. This is why fetching chests is so important.

[Kings Bounty Hunter]

Originally Posted by loreangelicus

Rage spent is zero? No chest digging whatsoever? Is this the trade off when using solo BKs since they are so slow?

I really don't understand why they should go "boring" solo. Why not use some support troops? At the very least you could add Bone Dragons to fetch for chests since whatever build you have for BKs would most likely benefit the undead dragons as well (Eviln, Staff of the Acolyte Necromancer, "Dark Commander", etc.).

Even if you add slow troops like Inquisitors, Gorguanas, Archmages, Demonologists, etc. you could always get the blue pet dragon. With "Dark Commander" level 3 you would have +2 initiative, an additional +1 from the blue pet dragon, and your Bone Dragons would most likely give you the first move. Then just Teleport level 3 your BKs to the enemy ranks.

At least this way you still get to fetch chests.

Btw, the best way to get Black Knights is via the wanderer scroll Call of Death. I'm still at the first 4 islands and I already have 9 wanderer scrolls, 2 of which are Call of Death.

There's no guarantee you'll get BK's though is there.

[jake21]

It is guaranteed you can get BK's if you want them either via Morro or the Necro in dwarven area.

Originally Posted by Kings Bounty Hunter

There's no guarantee you'll get BK's though is there.

[Urbz]

Originally Posted by loreangelicus

Rage spent is zero? No chest digging whatsoever? Is this the trade off when using solo BKs since they are so slow?

I really don't understand why they should go "boring" solo. Why not use some support troops? At the very least you could add Bone Dragons to fetch for chests since whatever build you have for BKs would most likely benefit the undead dragons as well (Eviln, Staff of the Acolyte Necromancer, "Dark Commander", etc.).

Even if you add slow troops like Inquisitors, Gorguanas, Archmages, Demonologists, etc. you could always get the blue pet dragon. With "Dark Commander" level 3 you would have +2 initiative, an additional +1 from the blue pet dragon, and your Bone Dragons would most likely give you the first move. Then just Teleport level 3 your BKs to the enemy ranks.

At least this way you still get to fetch chests.

Btw, the best way to get Black Knights is via the wanderer scroll Call of Death. I'm still at the first 4 islands and I already have 9 wanderer scrolls, 2 of which are Call of Death. This is why fetching chests is so important.

I do agree but I think people do stuff "because they can"

@ kings bounty hunter, there's some tricks to change the sort of troop you will get, if using other eggs and such before the scroll. Also you dont get troops you already have so it might help having other undead troops in your army i reckon?

[lauvhk]

@ loreangelicus

If you refer to the first pic, you cannot use your pet dragon during boss fight. And even if you can, that's the last fight...

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by lauvhk

@ loreangelicus

If you refer to the first pic, you cannot use your pet dragon during boss fight. And even if you can, that's the last fight...

I forgot about that, thanks. Haven't fought any bosses yet in KBAP, so KBTL experience on that hasn't kicked in yet.

But still, for regular fights, moving around with BKs to fetch chests should be tedious on the solo strategy, even with Haste, right?

@ kings bounty hunter

If you religiously collect eggs (griffon, spider, snake, etc.) you could use those to change the resulting summon of Call of Death/Call Colossus/Call of the Wind (?). See discussion of generating black knights from this post:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...t=black+knight

@ urbz

Yes, having other undead troop types would increase your chances of getting the black knights, but with enough eggs (and you would have a lot if you don't sell them or use them as troops, which you shouldn't anyways) you don't need to keep other undead troop types. Besides, the only late-game undead that I deem worth using are black knights and bone dragons; honorable mention goes to ancient vampires and necromancers.

[Elwin]

Well. If u play black night only u have guaranteed +2 speed from adrenaline its not realy a problem ~~

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by Elwin

Well. If u play black night only u have guaranteed +2 speed from adrenaline its not realy a problem ~~

That goes to show I haven't played enough KBAP to know all the combos. A paladin skill, right? And here I am playing paladin.

And if I remember correctly from forum posts, the pet dragon gains more XP when you are using less troops?

[Elwin]

Yes. Dragon levels very a lot especialy when I went to Nameless/Shettera on level 25 ~~ Armies were like 15 times more so exp multipplier was high
And black with dark commander and adrenaline are fking sweet 9 init 4 speed and with splinter of darkness even more sweet