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Old 01-02-2010, 03:47 PM
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Side by side comparison video between il2 FM and WOP FM on the Bf109 G6.

I thought some of you might find it intersting.





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Old 01-02-2010, 04:04 PM
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It's funny.

People flamed Rise of Flight because it didn't have some features at the start, but they're supporting Wings of Prey even considering the developers forgot to implement major features that interfere directly with the aircraft's behaviour?!

And, curiously, while the fact of it lacking some features in the very beginning was an excuse not to buy Rise of Flight, the same thing is used as an excuse to put faith on Wings of Prey. In the end some sound like "No, but it's still in development, buy it, they can fix it! Please, believe me!!"

I'll stick with good and old IL-2, that was already developed and flies and looks closer to reality than Wings of Prey
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Old 01-02-2010, 04:17 PM
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It's funny.

People flamed Rise of Flight because it didn't have some features at the start, but they're supporting Wings of Prey even considering the developers forgot to implement major features that interfere directly with the aircraft's behaviour?!

And, curiously, while the fact of it lacking some features in the very beginning was an excuse not to buy Rise of Flight, the same thing is used as an excuse to put faith on Wings of Prey. In the end some sound like "No, but it's still in development, buy it, they can fix it! Please, believe me!!"

I'll stick with good and old IL-2, that was already developed and flies and looks closer to reality than Wings of Prey

LOL yeah I agree with your comments on the ROF thing !
Sad to hear you don't like Wop though.
I say buy the game , Support any form of Sim that comes to our Dieing Market. We have to few of them to bitch about.
I still play il2 and that will never change. I have 4hrs in already today flying some Il2 1946 missions.
At 1pm its ROF time till 4pm and then WOP from 5pm to 9pm !
Then DCS Black Shark at 9pm till 1 am !! LOL
Just bought OFF today so when it gets here I will add it into the list.

You just got to love Saturdays ! and like I said you can never have enough Great flight combat sims to enjoy.

Forever supporting any Flight Combat Sim I can afford, DESODE
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Old 01-02-2010, 04:33 PM
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I tried to download the demo, but the only thing the installer did was to slow down my computer. Didn't even open! I'm trying again today to see if it works, but it's really weird.

I'm just saying it based on the oppinions from supporters I've seen here. I dislike the graphics already, and it seems that flight models need some fine tuning.

By the way, as you mentioned "our dieing market", check this out:

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/feature...of-2009-Voting

We see a flight simulator leading the poll of "Best PC Game of 2009", beating RPGs, shooters and everything else.

So, how dieing do you think our market is?

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Old 01-02-2010, 04:39 PM
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I tried to download the demo, but the only thing the installer did was to slow down my computer. Didn't even open! I'm trying again today to see if it works, but it's really weird.

I'm just saying it based on the oppinions from supporters I've seen here. I dislike the graphics already, and it seems that flight models need some fine tuning.

By the way, as you mentioned "our dieing market", check this out:

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/feature...of-2009-Voting

We see a flight simulator leading the poll of "Best PC Game of 2009", beating RPGs, shooters and everything else.

So, how dieing do you think our market is?

Ah yes I have voted on it from 10 connections and have Forced 27 of my friends to vote for this too !!! I'm crying tears of joy that we have gotten SOW up there. Its great news. Trust me I'm doing everything I humanly can to make our market better. The community really came together on the Poll.
It made me very proud to see.
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Old 01-02-2010, 05:35 PM
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EDIT: Nevermind, now it's installing. Let's see if it's really worth it.

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Old 01-02-2010, 06:15 PM
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Looking at the Bf109G-6 video. The differences are not big, this possibly because the pilot flying IL-2 has it configured and flown it for ages whereas WoP has different way of setting up controllers and different FM, which makes it easier to make errors. I would not compare WoP or IL2 directly. The feel of them is different from the short time I've tested it.

Supporting flight sims..well since Commodore 64! Still got cassette version of the Project:Stealth Fighter. Bought RoF as well, will buy WoP and of course SoW, when released. Still got Flanker 1.0, 1.5, Squadron Commander's Edition and 2.0, Jane's F/A-18, Jane's WW2 Fighters, Pacific Air War + add-ons, European Air War, B17 The Mighty 8th II, Battle Of Britain 1 & 2, EF2000, Hind, Falcon 4.0, IL-2 original + add-ons, Russian version, 1946, CFS 3 etc. All sitting on shelf Still a few I need to get to complete the collection

As much as I wait for SoW myself too, it is funny to see how people think it will be out of this world. It will be a benchmark for sure, but didn't Oleg say somewhere that if the DM/FM was cranked up to maximum the game engine is capable of then the FPS above water without clouds or anything was something like 2FPS?! So if you really think the fidelity of DM/FM will be set to maximum in release..dream on It will be advanced over IL-2 but at cost of hugely increased system requirements. You can not get it all without making sacrifices

As of WoP. Sure console legacy shows, but it has potential as has RoF. So I would not diss it. Remember that developers of the WoP have all the tools and game engine info needed to change it. In IL2 the "not official add-on makers" do not have them and lot is based on trial & error thus making it slow in advances.

RoF is a good game. Runs flawlessly and has nice FM and DM..and the vintage feel What I personally dislike is the interface for configuring the joystick and other controls, way too clumsy. IL-2 still has one of the easiest ones to configure and seems WoP has too.

So what do we have in the end? A bunch of flight games of various degrees, and one to be released this year so we all can enjoy
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Old 01-02-2010, 05:58 PM
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It's funny.

People flamed Rise of Flight because it didn't have some features at the start, but they're supporting Wings of Prey even considering the developers forgot to implement major features that interfere directly with the aircraft's behaviour?!

And, curiously, while the fact of it lacking some features in the very beginning was an excuse not to buy Rise of Flight, the same thing is used as an excuse to put faith on Wings of Prey. In the end some sound like "No, but it's still in development, buy it, they can fix it! Please, believe me!!"

I'll stick with good and old IL-2, that was already developed and flies and looks closer to reality than Wings of Prey
I very much agree. RoF is everything a good flight sim should be in terms of graphics and physics, WoP is still in development, but here is the thing. WoP started out with roll models like il2 and others, it didnt have to build up a quality base from scratch. All they had to do was imitate the quality of il2 and bingo, you have a great flight sim. Instead I dont know what we got. I am going to evaluate the flight models of the p-51 and spitfire comprehensively against il2 and against records of both planes, probably tommorow. It seems that the 109 model is about right in the game, what I noticed is that the stall in WoP is just too easy to manage. Perhaps this is a game that will get very good with time, and I might even start posting comments in their forum to help, but here is an example of a game that should have had it right, the FIRST TIME out, not several patches later.
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