Friday 2009-12-04 Screenshots Update discussion thread

[ECV56_Lancelot]

Originally Posted by Skarphol

The grass in this screenshot is obviously seriously undermodelled!

The grass was WAY longer in 1940! I have charts!! Oleg, this kills the immersion!! Plz fix.

Skarphol

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Don´t forget the ground crew uniform, completely porked!

[zakkandrachoff]

i don´t understond what is wrong

this cockpit is very similar to your pic, Skarphol.



explain right what is wrong for you

[Skarphol]

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff

i don´t understond what is wrong

this cockpit is very similar to your pic, Skarphol.

explain right what is wrong for you

Well, I was not really complaining about the cockpit, it looks fantastic!
I am more worried about the grass in that Hurricane screenshot. I think the grass was way longer in 1940, as they had not yet invented lawnmowers you could sit on. Thus they had to either cut the grass manually, or hire some local sheeps to do the job. I've not seen any screenshots with sheeps yet, thus the grass should have been considerably longer! And this is a great immersionkiller to me, and I think Oleg is neglecting this huge aspect of flightsimming! OLEG!! Plzfix!

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff

i don´t understond what is wrong

this cockpit is very similar to your pic, Skarphol.

explain right what is wrong for you

It's a joke. Notice that the "screenshot" he is talking about is a photograph. Probably not a photograph from 1940, but still.

I however do have concerns, the paint on aircraft should be matt, except in the case of parade finishes, such as the finish on the aircraft in the photograph, which is presumably a current day photograph, of an aircraft finished in modern paints, for parade type duties. Some paints are acrylic now, but they weren't in WW2.

This from "How to go plastic modelling" by Chris Ellis, copyright 1970:

If you are making Second World War aircraft, the chances are you will hardly ever need gloss finishes except in the case of highly polished fighters. But on modern aircraft the finish nearly always is polished, even when it's camouflage.

[Richie]

There's other screens of long grass. Look in the past three weeks or so.

[Richie]

Here

http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/grab0104.jpg

[zakkandrachoff]

Skarphol I have your big grass, look





oleg promess cows, i dont know anything about sheeps. maybe in ThunderJet will be sheeps.

[major_setback]

Here is a 1940's shine.

Not all aircraft were 100% matt, and wind and dirt could polish the surface.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...4949u10fg9.jpg



Picture is taken during wartime, see here:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...418#6451009418

Look at the sky reflecting in the painted part of the canopy!


The next photo is taken in 1942, as you can see in the link.



http://www.spitfiresite.com/photos/h...-squadron.html



This shows sheen from a certain angle too.

http://www.nasaimages.org/luna/servl...~61&mi=1&trs=3

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...03-00301-1.jpg

Here too, 1940'sSpits under production. Showing sheen:

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/331...143FD4AE7FC81B


1942, loook at the shine on the tailplane:

http://www.crashsiteorkney.com/useri...tfire164Sq.jpg


A real shiner - Group Captain A.G. Malan, DSO, DFC, with his usual Spitfire Aircraft ZP-A (1940):

http://samilitaryhistory.org/vo013dtc.jpg


I agree that most aircraft looked matt a lot of the time, but depending on different types of paint/wear/lighting conditions they could also show sheen/shine.

.

[Skarphol]

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff

Skarphol I have your big grass, look





oleg promess cows, i dont know anything about sheeps. maybe in ThunderJet will be sheeps.

YES! That's more like it!
In that picture we can also see two members of StKG-69 performing the well known "Low Level Inverted Stuka"-technic for tossing propaganda leaflets into WAAF's restrooms for telling how much more 'well hung' german airmen are compared to the britons.

Skarphol