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IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey Famous title comes to consoles.

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Old 11-25-2009, 09:51 AM
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Totally off topic (as if it matters), do you play FPS on gamepad?
Again, off topic, but Frag FX FTW! lol
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:49 AM
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I'm not saying any names but 4th place and 8th place on the BF2(Pc) leader board use a program called pinnicle profiler and a 360 controller , I was in a clan with them for about 2 years.
You would be surprised how many people play pc games like that. You have to spend hours tweaking things till you get it just right, but some of the best pc gamers out there use it and would never admit it, because they don't want others to know thats what they use. I personally still perfer a mouse, but when I Alpha tested Shadowrun in house for FASA Studios, we had 40 testers and the 360 controller gamers with no aim assist killed the mouse and keyboard guys.
It got so bad that the Dev team had to add some aim assist to the mouse so they could keep up.


I knew a lot of pc gamers that talked a lot of smack about a mouse and keyboard being better and when Shadowrun went live, they shut up real quick.

I personally think that it depends on which you use the most. It boils down to hours put into using that preference and for me Shadowrun proved that. I played it on pc and 360 and I was better with a Mouse and keyboard, yet there were players just as good with a controller.
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:08 PM
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My neighbor played Counter Strike/Source 6+ years, and I would bet my butt that if I played it with a controller I could dominate him in a month. Just watch them play with a keyboard. Figners flying everywhere, pushing this and that. The only advantage with a mouse/board is aiming. Certinly not movemant.

It, to me, is quiet comical.
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:14 PM
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Try that against me and I would blow you away in a heart beat. Plus CSS aint exactly stellar when it comes to gameplay. Also if anyone actually saw an e-sport tourney you would see that ALL the best players of shooter games on PC use a k/b mouse combo. If pad users were so good they would be up there and they aint.
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:23 PM
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Try that against me and I would blow you away in a heart beat. Plus CSS aint exactly stellar when it comes to gameplay. Also if anyone actually saw an e-sport tourney you would see that ALL the best players of shooter games on PC use a k/b mouse combo. If pad users were so good they would be up there and they aint.
I'm no expert on CSS, but I can tell by watching sombody play with a kb/m that if they had equal time with a pad they could be much better.

What about crouching? You must hold one key, while pushing others to move, all the time using the mouse to aim. Pretty hard to do well and precisely.

Edit: Sorry, but we may have a new topic here.

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Old 11-25-2009, 12:26 PM
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so far offtopic
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:38 PM
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Patch. PS3.

Now on topic.
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Old 11-25-2009, 01:40 PM
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I'm no expert on CSS, but I can tell by watching sombody play with a kb/m that if they had equal time with a pad they could be much better.

What about crouching? You must hold one key, while pushing others to move, all the time using the mouse to aim. Pretty hard to do well and precisely.

Edit: Sorry, but we may have a new topic here.
Na thats what a multi-button mouse is for. 2 thumb buttons and your good to go. Infact, its damn easy to crouch & fire on the move with it set to a mouse side button. Much easier than a pad and having to click the stick in. Seriously though the people you watched must be totaly crap, because CSS is a piece of p*ss to play.

You should see the amount of chaos that BF2/2142 brings, in that game a pad user would be cut down in a heartbeat. Now those games seperates the men from the boys. Mind you though a pad is handy for flying in BF2/2142, though I'll take my flight stick over a pad anyday in that respect.
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Old 11-25-2009, 02:24 PM
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Na thats what a multi-button mouse is for. 2 thumb buttons and your good to go. Infact, its damn easy to crouch & fire on the move with it set to a mouse side button. Much easier than a pad and having to click the stick in. Seriously though the people you watched must be totaly crap, because CSS is a piece of p*ss to play.

You should see the amount of chaos that BF2/2142 brings, in that game a pad user would be cut down in a heartbeat. Now those games seperates the men from the boys. Mind you though a pad is handy for flying in BF2/2142, though I'll take my flight stick over a pad anyday in that respect.
Nah The button layout isn't hard for a controller it is faster then a keyboard.
You can make whats called shift buttons. there are 16 buttons on a controller to start with make one or 2 of those a shift button and you double or triple the buttons. Thats why my 2 old bf2 clan guys used it. They could jump ,dive ,toss a frag all there frags and rip a clip and reload before they hit the ground in prone. In all honesty it left the keyboard in the dust. Plus that Pinnacle profiler software lets you program multiple button combinations on single button presses. Which grant it you can do that stuff with a keyboard too. Still with the controller you never have to take you eyes off the screen and it was amazing to see what these guy could do on Bf2 pc. They would just slaughter people.

Except with sniping. They couldn't hang with the M&K on that. We had guys in the clan that where just as good as them in aiming with the M&K but they couldn't do 44 button combinations as fast as those 2 guys could do on the 360 controller.
You would just have to see it to believe it. They were on equal footing with the run and gun aiming and way better using the shift system and having like 40 button commands on one 360 controller. The only think they couldn't do was snipe as well as a M&k guy.

Shadowrun is cheap, if any of you M&K guys think you have that much of a advantage, go buy it and take on some 360 players. You'll find out just like I did,, there are some kids with a 360 controller that will give you a run for your money any day.
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Old 11-25-2009, 02:58 PM
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Na thats what a multi-button mouse is for. 2 thumb buttons and your good to go. Infact, its damn easy to crouch & fire on the move with it set to a mouse side button. Much easier than a pad and having to click the stick in. Seriously though the people you watched must be totaly crap, because CSS is a piece of p*ss to play.

You should see the amount of chaos that BF2/2142 brings, in that game a pad user would be cut down in a heartbeat. Now those games seperates the men from the boys. Mind you though a pad is handy for flying in BF2/2142, though I'll take my flight stick over a pad anyday in that respect.
I did'nt say my neighbor was good. And screw you for being able to play BF2. If I was'nt useing my income taxes to get a new vehicle I would get a PS3. Still too expensive for me.

Edit:By BF2, I assume you mean BF:BC2

Probably not with talk of leaderboards, forgive my ignorants. HA!

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