Friday 2009-11-06 Screenshots Update discussion thread

[proton45]

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff

ok... i prefer first the Gladiator, but is okay

I have a question that I don’t know if is already answer. If it was answer already, sorry, ok?
Is about maniobrability of the airplane. My question is if this is going to be more like LOMAC or like Il-2.
I put the example the maneuver of the Messerschmitt bf 109 version G, That was impossible of controlled the aircraft: when I turn Left (in the Joystick, not pull so strong), the plane go very strong to the right and stall and do crazy things. Result: For me, this is Impossible to fly.
Is for this only and particularly think that i fly very more hours LOMAC. Have more best control of the aircraft.
somebody please correct me if I am wrong

It took me a few hours of practice to get the feeling of the BF109 (it will stall if not handled well)...BUT maybe your problem is with your joystick setup? Have you tried adjusting the sensitivity bands, and stuff?

[proton45]

Hello Oleg...

1). I'm curious if you can tell us more about the new damage model? Along with the (great) new up-dated visuals, I think it will be one of the most important aspects of the new game play. How many different types of ammunition will be modeled in the new game (HE, AP, incendiary?), and will the player have the option of selecting the ammo type?

2). Will their be a (off-line) "player-stats/log" feature so that we can review or "hit statistics"?

Thanks for taking the time to read my questions.

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff

ok... i prefer first the Gladiator, but is okay

I have a question that I don’t know if is already answer. If it was answer already, sorry, ok?
Is about maniobrability of the airplane. My question is if this is going to be more like LOMAC or like Il-2.
I put the example the maneuver of the Messerschmitt bf 109 version G, That was impossible of controlled the aircraft: when I turn Left (in the Joystick, not pull so strong), the plane go very strong to the right and stall and do crazy things. Result: For me, this is Impossible to fly.
Is for this only and particularly think that i fly very more hours LOMAC. Have more best control of the aircraft.
somebody please correct me if I am wrong

In Il-2 I prefer to fly exactly Bf-109 beginning from letter G...
You simply move joystick too much on too slow speed for Bf-109. You may also switch off the torgue effect that understand effect than to have.
Remeber always - keeping the speed is a success of dogfight. As soon you lose the speed - you begin to look like sitting duck. Making any sharp maneuvers on some aircraft isn't possible on the speeds close to stall. Or fly biplanes and mybe you will be successfull like some do it in CRs, I-153(especially with guns), Gloster or even some japanese planes

Recommended by me settings of curves for joystic (exponential curve) is the most right for the feel of the flight and aircraft control if to compare it to real control column.
You will get other behaviour of aircraft using even great movement of joystick

Exponet control curves in Il-2 also was recommended by one of American WWII pilots, that played Il-2 and several modern pilots.

So try it.

[KG26_Alpha]

Well we get doors and hatches opening up etc, would be interesting to know if rework on overall lod is being done from 0-10 maybe to smooth out the jumpy/blocky rendering.

A lot of online war "closed pit" pilots fly 800x600 16bit with lowest graphics.

You see ground targets with no buildings/scenery in the way.
You see air target lod's like a brick from further away.


Personally I want the ground detail scaling done correctly this time around.

[Necrobaron]

I agree. As computers become more powerful and technology advances you have to expect to see more time spent on the little details. To hear the arguments of some here, sims would become pretty stagnant. To me the ultimate goal is photorealism in every way coupled with dead accurate physics and flight modelling. In another 15-20 years, I think we could be pretty darn close if the same level of progress continues. SoW is looking to be a nice rung in the ladder toward that goal.

Originally Posted by proton45

I have to admit that I don't really "get" the "too much detail" argument...MORE detail is always better.

I also don't understand the "why bother with so much detail, you can't see it at 30,000 feet"? My thought is...Right, so you can't see that much detail at 30,000, but you can see detail at 1000 feet. Why not make the argument about night flying and ask something like, "I can't see the ground at night, so why bother modeling it?"

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