Friday 2009-10-30 Screenshots Update discussion thread

[HFC_Dolphin]

Can we ride the bicycles? lol

Just a first impression about pilots: I think we could get some better faces. Besides that this pilot is ugly (like most Englishmen ), he looks too cartoonish.
I may be wrong though (not about Englishmen's looking ).



Edit: By the way, I do realize that pilot's faces are not of much importance (actually I almost don't care about how they look).

[Sunchaser]

THANK YOU!

We all appreciate these and are looking forward to this sim with great anticipation.

[ZaltysZ]

What can you tell about BF109 prop pitch control? Will it be manual only?

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by ZaltysZ

What can you tell about BF109 prop pitch control? Will it be manual only?

There was both types and we will have both.

[philip.ed]

Oleg, loving the shots!

I have one gripe though, and maybe it is something we should take to PM's?

I am an avid collector of RAF flying clothing/equipment (especially the Battle of Britain period) and I have noticed some inaccuracies with the pilot you have shown.

Firstly, the irvin didn't have pockets, and for a correct Battle of Britain period portrayal the irvin should hve a 2-panel back. Looking at my irvin, there aren't those big seems on the arms as you have shown. For what, I think, you ca do with the engine: the b-type-flying helmet looks fine. Some colour tuning around the leather-ear-domes may be in need, but otherwise it is fine.
The SD trousers are fine, and so are the 1936 pattern boots. If you need any pictures of kit, let me know. I can give you a complete list of the different types of kit they wore, and I may be able to show you pictures of them wearing it.

Edit: BTW, the colour of the wool on the irvin is wrong as well, it should be a nice tan colour. Again I should point out that whatever model you are working from is sightly inaccurate. I could point out as well that there is a reproduction Irvin Jacket that looks like the one you have modelled here, and it is incorrect. If this is the case, then it is not your fault!

Let me know, I hope you read this

[Kurfürst]

Why is the Bf 109E model still missing the head armor piece in the cocpit..?

Hopefully it isn't final.. there are plenty of pictures of Bf 109Es that were taken during the Battle, both with and without the back armored headrest.

Those with the headrest also show the curved top armor place (protecting the pilot from deflection attacks from above) present or missing.

One example being Bartlel's Bf 109E-1, WNr. 6296, forced down in air combat on 24 July 1940 - this one has both the armored headpiece, and curved armor piece on the top.



Obviously there was some irregularity with the fitting of these items, maybe preference of pilot, or unit commander, or delivery of these kits to units..

I am not sure if the engine allows such, but if it allows different 3D models to be loaded individually for each aircraft, it would be best if both options would be present for player choice, ie. player selects wheter he wants armor headrest present or not. Or it is set fixed for some units, based on photographic evidence. For example if player plays with III/JG 26, he has no choice and the headrest will be present.. if plays as pilot of other fighter unit, there will be no headrest. But probably simple player choice is better, simpler solution...

[JVM]

Wasn't the improved head armor only introduced in the E4 version? This one seems a E3 version to me...

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

Why is the Bf 109E model still missing the head armor piece in the cocpit..?

Hopefully it isn't final.. there are plenty of pictures of Bf 109Es that were taken during the Battle, both with and without the back armored headrest.

Those with the headrest also show the curved top armor place (protecting the pilot from deflection attacks from above) present or missing.

One example being Bartlel's Bf 109E-1, WNr. 6296, forced down in air combat on 24 July 1940 - this one has both the armored headpiece, and curved armor piece on the top.



Obviously there was some irregularity with the fitting of these items, maybe preference of pilot, or unit commander, or delivery of these kits to units..

I am not sure if the engine allows such, but if it allows different 3D models to be loaded individually for each aircraft, it would be best if both options would be present for player choice, ie. player selects wheter he wants armor headrest present or not. Or it is set fixed for some units, based on photographic evidence. For example if player plays with III/JG 26, he has no choice and the headrest will be present.. if plays as pilot of other fighter unit, there will be no headrest. But probably simple player choice is better, simpler solution...

Probably you may see that there simply absent the datails of cockpit yet except gunsight...

And... there are many photos both with and without. And we probaly will have the same things in a sim. This things that are important for the gameplay we try to implement in enough amount (versions)

[Kurfürst]

Thanks Oleg.

A question about Bf 109E versions - which ones you plan to include? Only E-3?

What about E-1, E-4 (ie. same as E-3 but with Mine shell firing MG FF/M. Even 3d model can remain same as most were simply converted from E-3 by repacing cannons)
Maybe E-4/N, E-7?

I am really hoping for E-1, because it was 2nd most important version in Battle, and a very fun airplane with the all-machinegun armament for simple dogfights.

Also question about wheater propeller pitch mechanism on Emil will be manual or by manual/Verstellautomatik? Both were present in Battle (similiar question as case of headplate)

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

Thanks Oleg.

A question about Bf 109E versions - which ones you plan to include? Only E-3?

What about E-1, E-4 (ie. same as E-3 but with Mine shell firing MG FF/M. Even 3d model can remain same as most were simply converted from E-3 by repacing cannons)
Maybe E-4/N, E-7?

I am really hoping for E-1, because it was 2nd most important version in Battle, and a very fun airplane with the all-machinegun armament for simple dogfights.

Also question about wheater propeller pitch mechanism on Emil will be manual or by manual/Verstellautomatik? Both were present in Battle (similiar question as case of headplate)

With the reelase we only limited in time. So currently in plan E-1 and two differences for E-3