Bf-109 G-10 worth unlocking?

[Soviet Ace]

I actually prefer the F4 or G2 to the other 109s, but that's me. They seem to handle better for what I have the notches set at. The G10, either on BoP or 1946, I never liked it because of its weight. Same with the K4, I always stuck with the Fs and G2.

[MorgothNL]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

I actually prefer the F4 or G2 to the other 109s, but that's me. They seem to handle better for what I have the notches set at. The G10, either on BoP or 1946, I never liked it because of its weight. Same with the K4, I always stuck with the Fs and G2.

I like how the F-4 flies. But it armament seems to be verry weak. The 109's fly worse than the spits, any turning battle with a spit will be lost by the 109. So, when I DO get behind the spits etc, I want the armament to shoot them down in a burst. The G-6 and K-4 can do this, but they dont fly well.

The 109's just feel underpowerd. Their nosecannon shoot rip appart wings with easy, but the armament if the spits, feels at least 3x as powerfull. this combined with the better manouvrebility of the spits, gives no reason to take a 109 .

I fly 109 now because I like the challenge. But whenever I come up against someone just as good as me, but in a spit, there is not much I can do. Even if im able to get behind him, than the armament of the F-4 will not have the power to instantly kill him. With the spit a burst is often more than enough.

Just a question now after this: was the 20mm nosecannon more powerfull than the 20mm cannons of the spits? (talking about real historical planes)

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by MorgothNL

I like how the F-4 flies. But it armament seems to be verry weak. The 109's fly worse than the spits, any turning battle with a spit will be lost by the 109. So, when I DO get behind the spits etc, I want the armament to shoot them down in a burst. The G-6 and K-4 can do this, but they dont fly well.

The 109's just feel underpowerd. Their nosecannon shoot rip appart wings with easy, but the armament if the spits, feels at least 3x as powerfull. this combined with the better manouvrebility of the spits, gives no reason to take a 109 .

I fly 109 now because I like the challenge. But whenever I come up against someone just as good as me, but in a spit, there is not much I can do. Even if im able to get behind him, than the armament of the F-4 will not have the power to instantly kill him. With the spit a burst is often more than enough.

Just a question now after this: was the 20mm nosecannon more powerfull than the 20mm cannons of the spits? (talking about real historical planes)

Umm... both are equally powerful. They're both 20mm in size, but I believe the Spitfires 20mm cannons fired a bit faster?

[MorgothNL]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

Umm... both are equally powerful. They're both 20mm in size, but I believe the Spitfires 20mm cannons fired a bit faster?

Thought maybe the nosecannon 20mm was a heavier shell, or an 'exploding' one.
Hmz, so the cannons are equal,but the spit has 2 and fire faster
So ehm, maybe a stuppid question, but where does the 109 exel the spit in? (dont say speed because thats a tiny difference)

EDIT:
I just found this table http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver...n/fgun-ta.html
More or less half way, there is the spit mk IX with the 4 x 7.7mm and 2x 20mm and exactly under the IX, there is the G-6. This G-6 is armed with a 20mm cannon and 2x 13mm.
So those 2 are have the same armament as the IX in game, and, lets say the 109 F-4 (the G-6 in game has gunpods).

If you look at the table, the weight of fire of the 109 is HIGHER. It is 2.46 kg per second, and the spit has 2.24 kg per second.
Looking at this, I would asume that the 109's armament should kill quicker than the spit's.

Do I just have a lot of bad luck with the 109/ luck with the spit? or is the armament of the 109 much weaker than the spits

[baldwin8]

I am not sure if this falls into the stupid question category, but which play level is everyone talking about here, arcade, realistic or simulator?

[MorgothNL]

Originally Posted by baldwin8

I am not sure if this falls into the stupid question category, but which play level is everyone talking about here, arcade, realistic or simulator?

yeah, should have mentioned that before

Im talking about sim mostly. Or realistic for that matter, because I dont notice difference in armament power, or airplane durability, between sim and realistic

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by MorgothNL

Thought maybe the nosecannon 20mm was a heavier shell, or an 'exploding' one.
Hmz, so the cannons are equal,but the spit has 2 and fire faster
So ehm, maybe a stuppid question, but where does the 109 exel the spit in? (dont say speed because thats a tiny difference)

EDIT:
I just found this table http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver...n/fgun-ta.html
More or less half way, there is the spit mk IX with the 4 x 7.7mm and 2x 20mm and exactly under the IX, there is the G-6. This G-6 is armed with a 20mm cannon and 2x 13mm.
So those 2 are have the same armament as the IX in game, and, lets say the 109 F-4 (the G-6 in game has gunpods).

If you look at the table, the weight of fire of the 109 is HIGHER. It is 2.46 kg per second, and the spit has 2.24 kg per second.
Looking at this, I would asume that the 109's armament should kill quicker than the spit's.

Do I just have a lot of bad luck with the 109/ luck with the spit? or is the armament of the 109 much weaker than the spits

Well there are some odd balled 20mm cannon rounds like 20x102mm 20x82mm(Which was the German caliber I believe used with their 20mm Mauser cannons?) But I think that most of them were the same weight, just a bit different in dimension?

EDIT: The 20x82mm was not the German cannon round. My mistake, but the Yak and La 20mm cannons were 20x99R the German Mauser was 20x135mm.