IL2 BoP - Sales Figures

[fuzzychickens]

Originally Posted by fuji8bit

Dude -- you have serious anger issues, and even more serious intelligence issues.

The original post had nothing to do with "American Ignorance". I have lived and traveled all over the world, and in every (participating) country I have visited (all three major axis countries, and the major allied powers)-- guess what? They all have differing views of their participation in the war. Americans were the Arsenal of Democracy, Britain stopped the Germans on the last stand of their Island, Russians gave more blood than any nation to blunt the Blitzkrieg. I respect that. They all have a story to tell, and intelligent people piece together history from all sides and form the best version of the truth they can come up with.

The original poster was merely making a realistic marketing suggestion. What British Kid doesn't dream of being a Spitfire pilot? What German Kid wouldn't want to fly a FW-190, defending the homeland? Are these kids full of "American Ignorance"?

My last point is this. "American Ignorance" is usually attributed to viewing the entire world through the single lens of American experience, which is something you do without realizing it. You certainly made your point about American Ignorance, but not in the way you intended.

My response was regarding the name changing on the American version of the game. I said nothing about the British or other versions. So take it in that context.

Also, as I said above, there are not enough American planes (and the mustang itself lacks a real cockpit) for the suggested name change to make sense. That kind of marketing move would look like a shallow attempt to gain extra sales while misrepresenting the product at the same time.

Also, you don't know enough about me to reach any conclusion about my intelligence. If you are basing it off what I write on an internet forum, then either you yourself are lacking in intelligence or you simply meant it as an insult. I'll be nice and assume the latter.

[kozzm0]

Originally Posted by Cwl

well the game definitley needs to be advertised more and lets be honest IL2 sturmovik isnt a catchy name.

In Russia maybe everyone knows what a Sturmovik is but in the UK or USA or Europe nobody does.

If they want to boost sales for a sequel they repackage the game depending on country.

in the UK they should name the game after the Spitfire. in the US thy should name it after the MUSTANG. etc.

that way the game would sell more copies.

If you think BOP is slow here, you should look at the Russian BOP forums. It finally dawned on me that there's no Russians here cause they're on their non-latin forum, so I went and found it... and there is not even 1 page of topics. You can see the latest threads, all the way back to the in-development threads, all on one short list.

But IL-2 Sturmovik is a name that has been heard by everyone who flies flight sims... on PC it is huge. Better to call it IL-2 Sturmovik than something like, idn, Heroes over Europe? Spits n' Schmitts? 'Canes, Mustanes, and other Planes... Run n' Gun Fun P51... Yak Attack...

There was a good turn-based game from the '90's called Achtung Spitfire... that is a great name for a ww2 air battle game.

Originally Posted by deascendant

Just look at the PC version, only titled "Wings of Prey", they obviously did some market research themselves..

Wings of Prey is an alternate, bad translation of the Russian title, Крылатые Хищники, which literally means "Winged Predators."

Like many of the PSN trophy names, and the cutscene narration, it looks like they didn't have a native English speaker to vet the translations... They got it right the first time with Birds of Prey, Wings of Prey sounds funny.

[dkwookie]

Originally Posted by kozzm0

Better to call it IL-2 Sturmovik than something like, idn, Heroes over Europe? Spits n' Schmitts? 'Canes, Mustanes, and other Planes... Run n' Gun Fun P51... Yak Attack...

There was a good turn-based game from the '90's called Achtung Spitfire... that is a great name for a ww2 air battle game.

Some great names there
How about "Stuka Loopy" or "A Fokke Wolf In London"