p51 garbage

[King Jareth]

One thing in its favour its got

the WEP of the GODS

i read P51's could handle long periods of WEP during real flights so tried it on a training mission and had it on for a good 5 minutes without stopping.

[Wissam24]

Yeah, it had literally 5 minutes of WEP time. In real life

[King Jareth]

Got atleast 6 minutes out of it a second time and hit 630kph in level flight at 4000m (simulation mode).

[Wissam24]

Playing Sim the other day, in a Spit I reached a dive of 523 mph, without the plane breaking up, I simply ran out of sky

[Mr_Steven]

go dogfight a 109 in a P51D at 30000 feet then come tell me it sucks.

[MorgothNL]

I always thought the P-51D in this game, was not what it should be like.

now im watching this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4glVNX3XsI&NR=1

It says the P51-D should
- outrun
- outmanouvre
- outgun
the bf109

now...im not so sure about the outmanouvre... but outrun.. hell yeah!

I tried this with a friend of mine today...
I was in a p51d and he in a bf109E. We flew next to each other at 8000ft... and then put full throttle.. I only gained 0.2km lead in the first 5sec... but after that...he was matching my top speed easily

And the turns in this game with the P-51 are crazy.. try doing any of the stuff you see in the 'dogfights' episode... and you WILL stall and spin. You can not even do a normal scissors at high speed :S.. neither can you pull out of a dive normally... you have to be verryyyy gentle..
there is just no way you can stay on the tail of a 109 for 5 secs in this game .. I really hope the will change its flight model...

if not for me... do it for the americans!

[The_Goalie_94]

They have to, if not the game will suck because this is THE BEST FIGHTER of ALL TIME their dealing with (Offically YES, before you complain, please look it up), and they dumbed it down to garbege. It should be the M16 or IL-2, that awesome, sexy looking gun that can do almost ANYTHING!!!!

[David603]

Originally Posted by MorgothNL

I always thought the P-51D in this game, was not what it should be like.

It says the P51-D should
- outrun
- outmanouvre
- outgun
the bf109

now...im not so sure about the outmanouvre... but outrun.. hell yeah!

I tried this with a friend of mine today...
I was in a p51d and he in a bf109E. We flew next to each other at 8000ft... and then put full throttle.. I only gained 0.2km lead in the first 5sec... but after that...he was matching my top speed easily

And the turns in this game with the P-51 are crazy.. try doing any of the stuff you see in the 'dogfights' episode... and you WILL stall and spin. You can not even do a normal scissors at high speed :S.. neither can you pull out of a dive normally... you have to be verryyyy gentle..
there is just no way you can stay on the tail of a 109 for 5 secs in this game .. I really hope the will change its flight model...

if not for me... do it for the americans!

Remember, the dev team is Russian. I'm not sure this heartfelt appeal will do you any good

Seriously though, you should take those history channel videos with a pinch of salt. Yes, the P51D is faster than any Bf109, with the exception of the K4 model, even though any model of 109 from the F onwards will out climb and out accelerate it. It cannot out turn a 109, and as for outgunning one, yes 6 .50cal Brownings is probably a better armament overall, but these guys obviously never saw what a 30mm cannon can do with one hit.

It doesn't help to be flying around on full fuel either, with the Mustang's large fuel capacity it has a greater effect than it would have on most planes, so whenever I fly this plane in Il2 1946 I use it with 25% or 50% fuel only, and carry droptanks if I need to go longer distances.

Originally Posted by MorgothNL

doing any of the stuff you see in the 'dogfights' episode... and you WILL stall and spin

Well, that's the catch-22 of having very realistic flight models. You need to know how to perform manoeuvres like that, just flinging the plane around the sky will not have the same effect.