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Originally Posted by Tipo_Man
So what?
Do I need to repeat my contest setup again?
Take a fighter, which is a historical opponent for that plane - 1936.
I-16 type 5(6) - which it fought in Spain.
Gladiator - fought in Africa
Fokker - what-if
B-534 - what-if
or some other early war, non-cannon armed fighter. In fact 20mm cannons in all countries (except France) appeared after 1940...
And please, I've no responsibility if you brake your joystick in anger 
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The I-16
lost to it in Spain. The Gladiator couldn't do anything to it in the MTO. Even the Fairey Fulmar did do much to stop it.
It operated with impunity until Spitfires, Hurricanes, and Wildcats showed up.
The was a period in the 1930's where bombers were so far outperforming fighters that it was believed that the day of the fighter was over, and that all airwars would be fought by who could drop bombs the fastest. Planes like the SM.79, and theirgeneraly resilience against the slow poorly armed fighters of the '30's are a very large reason why everyone was using 20mm cannon or heavy machine guns by 1938.
Harry Voyager
Addendum: I suspect part of what makes the SM.79 so painful is that it's guns are using 12.7mm rounds, rather than the 7.9mm most Axis bombers use. You're getting hit by 3-4 times the firepower that an He-111 can put out, and at least twice what the Ju-88 can manage.