the failure of clod is a failure of US ALL

[Igo kyu]

the failure of clod is a failure of US ALL

No, it wasn't.

[Jatta Raso]

time to bring on some sanity

the failure of CLoD is a failure INSPITE of US ALL

i see this is more like it; all debate shows and generates interest, on the other hand, a dead forum, that would've been a failure of the community; trying to keep things under perspective..


now this is not a kick in the teeth for the devs; you make choices, sometimes your projects work, sometimes they don't. devs certainly made their choices; no one seems to talk about it, but the departure of the team leader (the man with the vision) left a blank seemingly impossible to fill in..

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

because idiots get into the nuts and bolts, like they did with CFS (near its end) and bugger it up for everybody... laser cannons and zero G 90 degree turns etc

Cheats are fairly easy to deal with and are not so common, I think it's a shame we end up missing out on large quantities of quality user made stuff because of a little paranoia over very few 'idiots', and it really does seem to ignore the needs of the ofline simmer, which by all indications seem to be the majority user base

[Wolf_Rider]

Be that as it may, Bongo... it exists, it happens, it buggers it up

[Hood]

They are far more common than you think. The best two non-detectable cheats that I'm aware of in IL2 are a radar instead of the map, showing the positions and altitudes of enemy aircraft (relative to you), and the aiming reticule changing colour to show when you should fire to hit your target.

You'd have to visit the Russian forums to find out how those work. No doubt there are the same for CLOD by now.

Hood

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Hood

They are far more common than you think. The best two non-detectable cheats that I'm aware of in IL2 are a radar instead of the map, showing the positions and altitudes of enemy aircraft (relative to you), and the aiming reticule changing colour to show when you should fire to hit your target.

You'd have to visit the Russian forums to find out how those work. No doubt there are the same for CLOD by now.

Hood

I think cheats like that are unavoidable with or without official tools, so I still think it's an unnecessary paranoia.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Hood

They are far more common than you think. The best two non-detectable cheats that I'm aware of in IL2 are a radar instead of the map, showing the positions and altitudes of enemy aircraft (relative to you), and the aiming reticule changing colour to show when you should fire to hit your target.

You'd have to visit the Russian forums to find out how those work. No doubt there are the same for CLOD by now.

Hood

Thats really sad. Personally I could'nt get any satisfaction from playing with mods like that. Why not get into the modern jet sims that have that already?

I personally can live with my 0.18 K/D ratio and hold my head up high. I would hate to be someone who couldn't!

But I guess it's the same issue with performance enhancing drugs in sport. The biggest pitty is that people new to the sport may see it as only way to become competitive.

Sad!

[Hood]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Thats really sad. Personally I could'nt get any satisfaction from playing with mods like that.

Sad!

Absolutely. For some it's win at all costs. From memory the squad that used them in a friendly match against us was 2GvShAD. I've no idea if they're still active - I think maybe they were a group of people from different squads. I'd bet they're up to their old tricks in CLOD.

Hood

[SlipBall]

Bliss won't allow any of that over there

[vranac]

Originally Posted by Hood

They are far more common than you think. The best two non-detectable cheats that I'm aware of in IL2 are a radar instead of the map, showing the positions and altitudes of enemy aircraft (relative to you), and the aiming reticule changing colour to show when you should fire to hit your target.

You'd have to visit the Russian forums to find out how those work. No doubt there are the same for CLOD by now.

Hood

I saw on some forum that radar is detectable.Radar didn't work on big maps (AA,AB,AC...).
And second cheat you are talking about isn't of any help if pilot can't manage his plane into the position to shoot.It could help some rookie pilot to hit something.If you give an experienced pilot position to shoot you'll get hit for shure.

I realy don't see the point in raising those "cheats" questions again and again.

I know at least two pilots who was called "cheaters" and with one of them I was flying constantly for a few years.That guy won official Russian championship "Wings of victory" and all the finalists, 16 of them,
was flying together in the same room in controlled enviroment.

Cheat that would be helpfull is to modify engine power and I never saw that in CloD.