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Old 12-13-2011, 08:59 AM
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There is nothing wrong with paying for DLC. ROF shows that it's a good model of business. Even though I don't fly it that often I've 'Collected' a number of their planes.

How about the DCS series where you have to buy a whole new simulator for each flyable aircraft?

I'ld have no issue with buying a Battle of Moscow expansion whith new maps and aircraft to suit.
There is evreything wrong with that Model. It makes a lot of people stay away and the hole game a to Fr.....g expensive. I think its a stupid model. And thats way I do not play EVE, WOW and ROF.

I dont know why some type of people just want to pay more for a game. WHY? Do you have a lot of money, you dont know how to spend? A god product will aways sell. Payed Expantions is the way in my humble opinion. Like merged vertions as in IL2. I would pay for those.

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Old 12-13-2011, 10:31 AM
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I own RoF and have purchased a few planes (haven't played in a while though).

My fear is that that business model could steer the focus of the company into making planes, sights, lights and gauges for their income and not working on general updates as much (as they are free and don't pay).

I suppose after we have everything in-game working great, SDK(s) and more theaters (expansions) it could become a good business model to 'flesh out' the sim, but I prefer the larger expansions.

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Old 12-13-2011, 10:54 AM
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There is evreything wrong with that Model. It makes a lot of people stay away and the hole game a to Fr.....g expensive. I think its a stupid model. And thats way I do not play EVE, WOW and ROF.

I dont know why some type of people just want to pay more for a game. WHY? Do you have a lot of money, you dont know how to spend? A god product will aways sell. Payed Expantions is the way in my humble opinion. Like merged vertions as in IL2. I would pay for those.

Mybye Im look like one, but Im realy not - honestly

Never played EVE and not into WOW so as I have never played them or purchased them so I can not comment on anything to do with them.

To me, ROF is a good WW1 Flight sim that doesn't make me pay for the planes I will never fly. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with that, considering that they don't even charge for the sim any more.

If your not into the era or don't like the game or are just boycotting one of the few Combat AV Sim developers that making up to date games as a protest on their marketing model then that just peachy keen with me. But if they are making enough money to continue development of their product then in my opinion it's a good model. If people didn't think was good value they'ld go broke. Wouldn't they?

That said I don't think it's the only good marketing model out there. Just like you've stated, I'd prefered a paid addon that will merge with the existing game, just like the old IL2.

If it turned into pay for play payment system I'll join you in the protest.

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Old 12-13-2011, 11:06 AM
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Never played EVE and not into WOW so as I have never played them or purchased them so I can not comment on anything to do with them.

To me, ROF is a good WW1 Flight sim that doesn't make me pay for the planes I will never fly. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with that, considering that they don't even charge for the sim any more.

If your not into the era or don't like the game or are just boycotting one of the few Combat AV Sim developers that making up to date games as a protest on their marketing model then that just peachy keen with me. But if they are making enough money to continue development of their product then in my opinion it's a good model. If people didn't think was good value they'ld go broke. Wouldn't they?

That said I don't think it's the only good marketing model out there. Just like you've stated, I'd prefered a paid addon that will merge with the existing game, just like the old IL2.

If it turned into pay for play payment system I'll join you in the protest.

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Old 12-13-2011, 09:48 PM
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I have nothing agains paying for a game at all. What im agains is simply to they are add new planes for you to buy all the time instead of making an addon with new objekts, maps aircraft ect... I just belive thats more fair.

I am aware that it is my choice, whether I want to buy a new aircraft or not. But I like to try out what I'm up against, and therefore fly enemy aircraft occasionally. That I can only if I buy it.

IL2 and their add-on was an excellent thing. Your sim was expanded continuously and that way the game was complete. All had the same aircraft and had the same choice. When the new Russian front is coming, I surely it will merge with Clod. If not I will concider buying it, or wait for a second front. I do not want 5 or 10 different games, each with its own front. It takes up too much space and is to impractical I think.

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Old 12-13-2011, 09:57 PM
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If people didn't think was good value they'ld go broke. Wouldn't they?
I don't have much problem with RoF's business model, but I have to say that this point in particular is pretty moot since there isn't another WWI sim of a similar quality and fidelity or even the prospect of such out there. They are for all intents and purposes in a monopoly position. The only reason they aren't charging horrendous amounts is because games are a luxury that most of us do without when we think the prices are unreasonable.
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Old 12-14-2011, 09:10 AM
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Old 12-14-2011, 10:38 AM
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When it comes to generating income from a game I suppose the biggest difference between ROF and IL2 is that ROF operates in a limited theatre over the Western Front. There just aren't the opportunities to created additional maps so all they can do is sell planes. IL2 on the other hand represents a truly world war with a number of seperate areas of operations that can be used as a base for stand alone or merged updates. The different approaches suite the different games.
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Old 12-14-2011, 08:02 PM
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The only reason RoF is limited to it's present AO is because that is what the devs have decided to stick with, the Air war in WWI was a lot more extensive than many people realize!

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