'Red Tails' New WW2 movie coming out ;)

[6S.Manu]

I don't understand... What the meaning of "superior pilot"?

Why are you arguing about that? I thought the problem was Hollywood.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

What do you think pilots used when their radio navigation equipment was damaged? How do you think that process worked for carrier pilots?

Obviously it didn't work well for the few that had that speciffic bit of equipment damaged.

[SIDWULF]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Just seeing the clip of the P-51 doing an Su27 style backflip is enough for me to leave well alone.

You would think if you were making a WW2 Air combat movie you would at least know how aircraft fly, and what is possible and all the little cavets of dogfighting such as high and low yo-yo's and scissors and boom and zoom. It is frusturating to see how the aircraft move in that trailer...really lame acctually...I would probly thin the animators know little about WW2 Aircombat. They should of fired up IL2 and did some flying to get an idea!

but the CGI looks awesome and i all my favorite aircraft are in it (Wheres the FW 190??) so i am happy there is a movie coming out that can represent air battles like never before...love CGI.

I would hope to see at least something interesting and respectable like the germans using engergy tactics...

*Edit* I just looked at the trailer again and the movment is ok....just the backflip thing is odd and obviously put in for show...

[SIDWULF]

Oh and there better not be any love story attached to try and make this movie more relatable to "people"....bah

Originally Posted by SIDWULF

You would think if you were making a WW2 Air combat movie you would at least know how aircraft fly, and what is possible and all the little cavets of dogfighting such as high and low yo-yo's and scissors and boom and zoom. It is frusturating to see how the aircraft move in that trailer...really lame acctually...

Actually, they had some current P-51 owners/air show pilots advising them.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

Actually, they had some current P-51 owners/air show pilots advising them.

even if it were possible the whole idea of using a manouver that deliberately puts you pointing vertical with little airspeed defies all logic in dogfighting, if it happened it was a 1 in a million lucky move.

Originally Posted by bongodriver

even if it were possible the whole idea of using a manouver that deliberately puts you pointing vertical with little airspeed defies all logic in dogfighting, if it happened it was a 1 in a million lucky move.

Yes, it does. Most likely it was done in desperation. There is an interview with a WW2 pilot in the Dogfight series where they use a similar animation. I'm sure it's not 100% accurate, but it illustrates the situation the pilot was describing.

[nearmiss]

George Lucas is famous for what?

Star wars...

The red tails will just be more of the same, different setting and characters.

I wonder, if there is a wookie?

Anyway, don't get up tight. It's just entertainment.

Gotta have spectacular stunts, which certainly will not be as "off world" as Transformers, iron man, x-men, etc.

I'll go see it for the air combat action, can't get enough of that. I wouldn't care if the Simpsons were starring in it, if the air combat action is good.

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by SIDWULF

You would think if you were making a WW2 Air combat movie you would at least know how aircraft fly, and what is possible and all the little cavets of dogfighting such as high and low yo-yo's and scissors and boom and zoom. It is frusturating to see how the aircraft move in that trailer...really lame acctually...I would probly thin the animators know little about WW2 Aircombat. They should of fired up IL2 and did some flying to get an idea!

but the CGI looks awesome and i all my favorite aircraft are in it (Wheres the FW 190??) so i am happy there is a movie coming out that can represent air battles like never before...love CGI.

I would hope to see at least something interesting and respectable like the germans using engergy tactics...

*Edit* I just looked at the trailer again and the movment is ok....just the backflip thing is odd and obviously put in for show...

it's not. it's a feel good movie about overcoming bigotry and adversity, with air combat tacked on. actual reference to ACM will be passing and the vast majority of people (read non-pilots or aviation nuts) will have no comprehension of the historical inaccuracy, nor will they care.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

When I say "inferior machines" I do not merely refer to performance or quality of the planes, but the fact that the flight lines suffered constantly of lack of spares, oils, fuel and ammunition.

Quality-wise there surely was a gap between American and German planes, the main differences being in the availability of materials for industrial production (the Mustang itself was made of at least 40 different kinds of alloys), but technology-wise stuff like the kommandgerat and the jet fighters put the Luftwaffe years ahead.

This discussion is pointless, those guys believe in Captain America being a historical fact.

From 1942 to 1944 the Germans had access to all the resources in Europe

That's an alternate history string or maybe you're just an idiot.
I wonder why my grandmother had(or was supposed) to donate all brass, copper and other rare metals her household could spare to the government.


edit:

They never had to worry about landing in enemy territory or running out of fuel.

Really? What were they doing in Africa? Fighting the Axis of evil? What relevance had Romania?
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