The quickest way to feel ashamed.......

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Of where you live?
Thieving f**tards taking copper plaques from a memorial in a graveyard of civilians killed in the city during WW2 so they can sell/melt them down.
They need f'ing shooting!

You can imagine how I felt when some low life scumbags stole my Dad's memorial stone off the family grave. We never found out who.

I mean what can you do with a piece of engraved marble?

Shootin' 'em's too quick.

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by retrojet

Do not want to get into politics here ( it's da rules) , coz whoever is in 'power', does the same as the ones before, absolutely f-all... Excuse my French...

And even after wasting all the best youth a country has to offer by going to war, whether it's a 'just' one, or not... it's the common man who is left to carry the cost, clean up the mess, take in the dregs and pay for the fat cats to carry on getting fatter...

Idiot parents having idiot kids = riots in England... And everything that goes with it!

Parent and teachers unable to raise a hand to unruly kids... Then send them straight to the front lines, instead... Let the enemy waste a few rounds...

Anyway, have a nice day, guys, and thank you for listening... I feel much better, now!

Jesus tap-dancing Christ...

Anyway, on topic...this is a truly despicable act. Heres to a quick death to the perpetrators.

[Madfish]

Probably not making friends with saying this but:

Most of you ask for them to be shot for stealing a plate of cheap copper? Seriously, I wonder if you ever look at what you're saying.

True wartime heroes would probably laugh at this or turn around in their graves after witnessing the brutalities of war and death and seeing some forum heroes demanding people to get shot for something like this.

Yes, copper prices rise and it's probably not the right thing to do - but do you seriously believe it "dishonors" the dead? Brings them back to life or something?

Maybe I'm just too 21st century but in case I die I couldn't care less what people do with my remains. I'm dead, my life gone.
Do you want to kill every worm because it eats the dead?

Also, how long do you think people will keep these memorials? In 2000 years everything will be filled with memorials instead of houses if we don't move on.


So yeah, I agree it's not a cool thing to do but the replies I'm seeing here are questionable at best. I'm not seeing that it'd be in the spirit of the fallen ones either to be honest with you.

[Skoshi Tiger]

I guess your right. If we shot all the unthinking, selfish, self-centered, disrespectful people in the world there wouldn't be many of us left.

The worst case I heard of happened about 10 years ago when a group of women's right activists turned up at an ANZAC day dawn service and threw red paint over the 70 year old veterans while others spray pained the Cenotaph with 'women against rape in war'

Their 'protest' caused more damage to their cause than anything else. Assaulting people to make a point is just plane wrong.

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by Madfish

Probably not making friends with saying this but:

Most of you ask for them to be shot for stealing a plate of cheap copper? Seriously, I wonder if you ever look at what you're saying.

I dont care if it was made of cardboard. It is far more than that. If you dont understand that then you never will

True wartime heroes would probably laugh at this or turn around in their graves after witnessing the brutalities of war and death and seeing some forum heroes demanding people to get shot for something like this.

Are you a wartime hero? I'm not, just a veteran, but even I still do not presume to know their point of view.

Yes, copper prices rise and it's probably not the right thing to do - but do you seriously believe it "dishonors" the dead? Brings them back to life or something?

Yes, it does. Their memory and the sanctity of our national identity are sullied when these vandals do these things. It is an assault on our warriors and on our very nation.

Maybe I'm just too 21st century but in case I die I couldn't care less what people do with my remains. I'm dead, my life gone.
Do you want to kill every worm because it eats the dead?

You just don't get it, not your fault, nothing you could do.

Also, how long do you think people will keep these memorials? In 2000 years everything will be filled with memorials instead of houses if we don't move on.

It is my fondest hope that our memorials to our fallen warriors exist until the ending of the earth, that we may remember them and follow their example.

So yeah, I agree it's not a cool thing to do but the replies I'm seeing here are questionable at best. I'm not seeing that it'd be in the spirit of the fallen ones either to be honest with you.

Well here's where I'm coming from, as a veteran.
A man who has no respect/reverence for their country, its history, or respect for those who have made the ultimate sacrifice in the name of liberty do not deserve to draw breath. Period.
Personally, I question any man who does not put fealty to their family/nation first and foremost in the list of lifes priorities.
And your point of view is something that I find very disturbingly, as you say "21st century". Think of all the men that died to ensure the sovereignty of wherever you hail from. It may not mean a lot to you but they were willing to lay down their lives to ensure that our nation and our way of life remained independent and self governing. If you don't think that that memory, and the monuments to it, are entitled to the highest levels of respect then I simply will never understand your point of view.

[retrojet]

Totally agree, CWMV.
I'm not saying we should do a hitler on these low-life's, but most of the trouble within so-called civilized countries today, is due to the lack of discipline and respect for others. Something that my father instilled in me! And if that meant a whack round the head for being out of line, then I deserved it! Bloody liberal-minded, do-gooders are causing a slow, but steady degradation of every moral value that good men died to provide the free-world!
Well, it's not so free when veterans are held hostage in their own homes, because it's not safe to go get a pint of milk!
I don't want Big Brother, but I do expect the punishment to fit the crime! And that is not the case 9 times out of 10!
Maybe national service should be brought back!

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by retrojet

Totally agree, CWMV.
I'm not saying we should do a hitler on these low-life's, but most of the trouble within so-called civilized countries today, is due to the lack of discipline and respect for others. Something that my father instilled in me! And if that meant a whack round the head for being out of line, then I deserved it! Bloody liberal-minded, do-gooders are causing a slow, but steady degradation of every moral value that good men died to provide the free-world!
Well, it's not so free when veterans are held hostage in their own homes, because it's not safe to go get a pint of milk!
I don't want Big Brother, but I do expect the punishment to fit the crime! And that is not the case 9 times out of 10!
Maybe national service should be brought back!

Here here!
In addition to national service maybe we can bring back that sense of nationalism and pride rather than this garbage "citizen of the world" globalist mentality.
We should all have pride in our national identities!

[Ibis]

You can't shoot these poor little one brain cell creatures, they come from the bottom of the gene pool, the same pool that their parents crawled out of.
Catch 'em and send them off to Afghanistan for six months, that should give them some idea of what they have done.
cheers,
Ibis.

[ZaltysZ]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

I mean what can you do with a piece of engraved marble?

You can rework it and sell it to other people. This is the most common reason why monuments are stolen.

[seaeye]

Originally Posted by retrojet

Maybe national service should be brought back!

Maybe National Service ought not be brought back. I served with the FAA a few years ago, and I can assure you there are already enough d**kheads within the military organisation without drafting in a load of criminals as some form of social rehab.

Originally Posted by Madfish

So yeah, I agree it's not a cool thing to do but the replies I'm seeing here are questionable at best. I'm not seeing that it'd be in the spirit of the fallen ones either to be honest with you.

I think alot of what this guy says is correct. Do the rest of you solve all life's problems with a gun?

Originally Posted by CWMV

Well here's where I'm coming from, as a veteran.
A man who has no respect/reverence for their country, its history, or respect for those who have made the ultimate sacrifice in the name of liberty do not deserve to draw breath. Period.
Personally, I question any man who does not put fealty to their family/nation first and foremost in the list of lifes priorities.
And your point of view is something that I find very disturbingly, as you say "21st century". Think of all the men that died to ensure the sovereignty of wherever you hail from. It may not mean a lot to you but they were willing to lay down their lives to ensure that our nation and our way of life remained independent and self governing. If you don't think that that memory, and the monuments to it, are entitled to the highest levels of respect then I simply will never understand your point of view.

When I was reading this all I could hear in my head was this: http://youtu.be/97VorYNvc-c?t=1m49s