Patience is a virtue...

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Of course its my fault..... I missed Luthiers post the night before the release saying listen up guys the game is nowhere near finished so please be warned, it wont run out of the box well at all, the sounds are crap thats why we avoided showing you any sounds, the videos we showed you were all faked so the game appeared to be running fine, the leaked video that got you all excited showing how well the game ran was a clever little marketing ploy, when i told you all that I like shiney new planes it was because the weathering didn't work and I was making it up about SLI working when i said 'why wouldn't it'. AA doesn't function at all, we also mislead you about the PC's not having enough ram at the Russian show so thats why it looked so choppy and the FPS was appalling. Ubisoft advertising directX 11 is just an oversight, and when we put cooperative play on the box we just assumed it may work. Yep, definetley my fault Robtek.

Mate, seriously, at least half of these were stuff you were questioning and complaining about way before release.

Let's be honest here, you didn't get fooled by anyone, you just chose to ignore your own predictions and hope it will turn out well. It didn't and then you got disappointed.

You know i mean no offense, i just find it hard to believe you got fooled when you were calling it out yourself weeks/months before it was released

[furbs]

Blackdog...i think Tree would agree with you, he didn't get fooled but his post could mean all the people that did.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

HaHaah, love it!!

Cool!

[Rather peeved]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Post of the month for me, and sums it all up unfortunately.

This is also my feeling. it's not so much the fact the game doesn't work, it's all the bulldust that was told in the lead up to release.

the blow to the Il2 brand's credibility is substantial, and they have a long way to go to win my trust back.

Regular and honest communication is the best way to get this back on track.

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Mate, seriously, at least half of these were stuff you were questioning and complaining about way before release.

Let's be honest here, you didn't get fooled by anyone, you just chose to ignore your own predictions and hope it will turn out well. It didn't and then you got disappointed.

You know i mean no offense, i just find it hard to believe you got fooled when you were calling it out yourself weeks/months before it was released

Thank you for the recognition, I bet Luthier hated me, I saw through so much of the Bull Dust, he most of thought I was working in his office, your right of course, i didn't get fooled, but I still supported the sim because we have nothing else. In order to discuss the woes of this sim you have to have purchased it first right?. However my biggest disappointment is not with the Bull crap before release but the poor effort in communication after, and of course the complete lack of an apology of any sorts after trousering our cash, Oleg left looking like a petty criminal rather then being showered in the glory that he much deserved. That is a shame and much of it is his own doing.

[Thee_oddball]

Originally Posted by addman

I paid my 40€ for this game, I don't owe anybody to do anything. If I like the game and consider it functioning and playable with a lot of good content then I will praise it. If it's buggy, broken, unoptimized and lacking in content then I will tell it like it is. This is how a consumer should reason, if you try to defend something that doesn't deserve to be defended then you're doing other consumers a great disservice. As I said in the beginning, I paid what the game maker asked from me, he is the one who has to prove to me that I spent my money well.

Being a sim does not excuse this game in any way, that's selective thinking and is only for the deluded. A game is a game is a game, no more no less. Yes, patience is a virtue, maybe next time 1c/MG/Ubi can have the patience to wait for us to pay until their product is finished, patience is indeed a virtue that should apply to EVERYONE.

+1 but we still need to keep plugging away...I don't want some port from XBOX tobe the next ww2 sim i fly..
S!

[retrojet]

I just finished watching an episode on the History Channel of the air-war during WWII.
Those involved gave their lives for what they believed was a true fight for freedom.
I had an uncle in an armoured division who was killed in the last days of the war.
I respect their sacrifice and play sims to try to 'feel' what was an incredible period in history.
If, for fifty bucks, I can get anywhere close to that experience ...even if only virtually... I think it's worth it.
Were time-travel an option, I wouldn't be typing this sad effort...
COD maybe rough for some, but the YouTube vids I've seen prove it's got great potential...

If I were a programming genius and able to code the greatest sim ever, I would!

But I'm not... And respect the guys who try... I don't believe the COD team
are out to intentionally make our lives, and theirs, a gaming nightmare...

...yer, I'm a mug... Say what you will... But at least I refuse to get so effed up about a bloody game, when the world is effed up for real!

[ATAG_Doc]

Some people are going to become bitter old men and all alone. You accept it you cannot worry about them.

[Bryan21cag]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Those very very bad developers should have told us not to buy their unfinished product, but it would have been counterproductive for EVERYONE. At least now there is a chance the new funds will finance further development as seems to be case at the moment. Yes we all could have waited until the sim was in better condition before we bought it, but without the added financing the sim would have shut down long before that happened. Consider it an investment that could net you another ten years of decent entertainment. The alternative is not good.

LOL They didn't need to trick me in order to get my money

I LOVE IL2 series and therefore I would be happy to part with not only $50.00 for the game but i would gladly donate plenty more for further development as needed if they were just honest about the state of the sim's development. hell i would have dropped like $500 bucks on them and than found a way to deducted it on my taxes or something. I have spent at least that much in other games and hobbies to fill in for the time I would have loved to have been playing the next Great WWII flight sim by there team ....LOL.....sigh

I'm sure I am not the only one that would have done that. They could have at least tried this first and then if no one came forward willing to invest in the future of WWII flight sims then they could have moved into the lets just release it and hope for more money to finish it plan

Not really holding a grudge about it any more but felt a bit like i had been led into an alley by a Jennifer Aniston for treats and than Ravaged in my virgin part by BUBBA against my will instead, after the first releases and patches.

next time i guess

cheers

[Thee_oddball]

Originally Posted by retrojet

I just finished watching an episode on the History Channel of the air-war during WWII.
Those involved gave their lives for what they believed was a true fight for freedom.
I had an uncle in an armoured division who was killed in the last days of the war.
I respect their sacrifice and play sims to try to 'feel' what was an incredible period in history.
If, for fifty bucks, I can get anywhere close to that experience ...even if only virtually... I think it's worth it.
Were time-travel an option, I wouldn't be typing this sad effort...
COD maybe rough for some, but the YouTube vids I've seen prove it's got great potential...

If I were a programming genius and able to code the greatest sim ever, I would!

But I'm not... And respect the guys who try... I don't believe the COD team
are out to intentionally make our lives, and theirs, a gaming nightmare...

...yer, I'm a mug... Say what you will... But at least I refuse to get so effed up about a bloody game, when the world is effed up for real!

this world is going to make a great archeological dig for some alien race that actually had a CLUE!

S!

p.s i hope they find a FW190A4 intact