could relativity proof have been falsified?

[raaaid]

thatsnks outlaw id never thought i would be apreciating being called asinine, hey but if its given with reason....

http://paias.org/Science/Einstein/Ein1Summary.htm

It turns out that the bending of light by the Sun due to atmospheric refraction — which we know exists more certainly than we think gravitational lensing exists, Newton, again — is approximately of the same order of magnitude as current estimates for “gravitational lensing”, but no one (as of the late 1990s) has taken it into account, at least not with any publicity. When taken into account (especially along with Einstein’s estimate for the effective Newtonian mass and associated deflection of photons), what is left over deviates unacceptably from the value needed to fully support Einstein’s gravitational lensing.

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oh and on censorship: i see no censorship at all in this forum yet some antiliberty people want me censored for being a free thinker

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yeah outlaw i admitt we live in a free world people paid with blood so people like me could say his NO OFENSIVE IDEAS FREELY, but our freedom is slowly being taken away

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of course what makes it being a 4th hit its my free thinking

very few people question what theyre told, i do

seems my free thinking unveild the relativity scam, and few were able to

and i did so with FREE THINKING not regurgitating propagandistic conspiracy theory made to seed terror and hopelessness or fox ultraright wings ideas as we can keep destroying our planet cause we are making huge printed paper

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searching relativity falsified gets me on the 1st page of google

am i a free thinking pioneer?

or 1c is falsifying the hits this thread is really getting

maybe what im doing which is so annoying fo the stablishment why they drove me crazy with tv is the revolutionary seeds im planting like for examp0le the huge lies of education as relativity or coulombs law on friction being independent of surface?

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googling relativity falsified gives you 4.630.000 hits

this thread appears on 10th position

doesnt this proof the annoying noise im making and the real reason why this guys want me out

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also one of my haters avoids to mention he is greek yet he is swiming in money

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bongodriver and sternjaegr as themsleves admitted are the elite of this planet, making huge money while uneducated while myself with two universities degrees im making 6 euro per hour and dont have money even for cigarretes

no wonder they hate me for questioning their elititist status quo with things like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Oh3qEVgBQ

[Outlaw]

This link, provided by you, definitively explains that refraction is accounted for...

http://einstein.stanford.edu/content...vity/q793.html

The following link, provided by you...

http://paias.org/Science/Einstein/Ein1Summary.htm

Simply notes that, as far as the author was aware, refraction had not been taken into account.

Originally Posted by raaaid

thatsnks outlaw id never thought i would be apreciating being called asinine, hey but if its given with reason....

I did not call you asinine.

Originally Posted by raaaid

oh and on censorship: i see no censorship at all in this forum yet some antiliberty people want me censored for being a free thinker

Incorrect. They want you censored because they think you are an annoying idiot.

Originally Posted by raaaid

of course what makes it being a 4th hit its my free thinking

No, what makes it 4th is the fact that invisible tribbles are taking over the Google server farms.

My statement is 100% as valid as yours.

Of course, the fact that it is not always 4th makes both statements totally incorrect.

Originally Posted by raaaid

very few people question what theyre told, i do

How many physics students have you interviewed to determine whether or not they question what they are told? We both know the answer.

Knowing that the answer is zero, your claim that very few people question what they are told is 100% invalid.

Originally Posted by raaaid

seems my free thinking unveild the relativity scam, and few were able to

and i did so with FREE THINKING not regurgitating propagandistic conspiracy theory made to seed terror and hopelessness or fox ultraright wings ideas as we can keep destroying our planet cause we are making huge printed paper

Except that your "free thinking" was backed up by numerous links that were posted BEFORE YOU MADE YOUR CLAIM. Thus, all you did was regurgitate what other people HAVE ALREADY SAID. You said NOTHING that had not been said already.

Originally Posted by raaaid

searching relativity falsified gets me on the 1st page of google

am i a free thinking pioneer?

Your lack of cognitive ability is truly astounding. Google the following...

I-16 vs. 109E - 3 min. 12 sec.


One of my websites will be first. What does it mean?

Originally Posted by raaaid

maybe what im doing which is so annoying fo the stablishment why they drove me crazy with tv is the revolutionary seeds im planting like for examp0le the huge lies of education as relativity or coulombs law on friction being independent of surface?

Coulomb never claimed the friction force was independent of the surface (and this has already been noted to you).

You already said you don't believe that relativity is wrong so how can it be a lie. Regardless, a link PROVIDED BY YOU has already shown that your statements about relativity are incorrect.

Thus, it is obvious to even a dead rat that you are not annoying the "stablishment", and they are not trying to drive you crazy. The OVERDOSE of DRUGS has already done that.

Originally Posted by raaaid

googling relativity falsified gives you 4.630.000 hits

this thread appears on 10th position

doesnt this proof the annoying noise im making and the real reason why this guys want me out

No, it does not give you 4,630,000 "hits". It gives you, "about 4,630,000 RESULTS". It has nothing to do with hit count. Furthermore, I just goggled it with and without quotes and this thread was in the 11th position without quotes and did not appear in the first 3 pages with quotes.

Which PROVES that you are incapable of understanding how search engine indexing works.

--Outlaw.

[raaaid]

Originally Posted by Outlaw

This link, provided by you, definitively explains that refraction is accounted for...

--Outlaw.

http://paias.org/Science/Einstein/Ein1Summary.htm

what that link says is that sun atmosphre refraction was not accounted til the 90s

It turns out that the bending of light by the Sun due to atmospheric refraction — which we know exists more certainly than we think gravitational lensing exists, Newton, again — is approximately of the same order of magnitude as current estimates for “gravitational lensing”, but no one (as of the late 1990s) has taken it into account, at least not with any publicity.


the rest are cheap sophisms

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for what i watched in tv the order of the results are given by the amount of traffic

that means this thread is in the top 0.000001% in traffic revelance on relaivity being falsified

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction

The elementary properties of sliding (kinetic) friction were discovered by experiment in the 15th to 18th centuries and were expressed as three empirical laws:
Amontons' First Law: The force of friction is directly proportional to the applied load.
Amontons' Second Law: The force of friction is independent of the apparent area of contact.
Coulomb's Law of Friction: Kinetic friction is independent of the sliding velocity.

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yesterdy it was cuolombs law today its amontons law, useless tt messing you knowe whatever i DID you cant change

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you just change all science history on friction, yet why my notes didnt change

[raaaid]

wow thanks a lot outlaw as the goodie you are fighting for a bad cause you just gave it away:

baddies with tt tech are taking over the world and im on their way since im inmune to timetravel:

all the web says that the law of friction being indepependent of surface is by amonton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction

Amontons' First Law: The force of friction is directly proportional to the applied load.
Amontons' Second Law: The force of friction is independent of the apparent area of contact.
Coulomb's Law of Friction: Kinetic friction is independent of the sliding velocity.

ALL?

NOPE CHECK THIS OUT:

http://arxiv.org/html/physics/0208025

and why is this?

cause i did that and you cant undo it

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...surface&page=5

Every ‘complete’ course in basic physics treats Coulomb’s famous inverse square law of electrostatic force. Few courses, however, associate his name with the law of sliding friction, also treated. Perhaps influenced by the work of Leonardo DaVinci, Coulomb provided in 1779 a treatment of sliding friction that has stood the test of time.

His law is expressed in terms of two constant coefficients, one being of kinetic type, the other static, with the latter being larger than the former. Surprising to most, the magnitude of the force of friction between two surfaces is to first order independent of both speed and the area of contact—depending only on the normal force N between the surfaces."


so outlaw you realize uncounciously you treason your bad cause cause youre a good guy

shame you cant undo it since im inmune to tt

well dont worry the nuremeberg trial which will judge the 2/3 of the world population for conspiring for mankind extintion with tt tech in excahnage to live life surgically extended these nobility will be taken into account

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZ8EkK3eWY

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my physics notes say culombs law calims friction independent of surface

that link I COPY PAST say culomb laws claim friction independent of surface

yesterday all i looked said that was coulomb laws, now all i look says its amomtons law

everything changed except what i did

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call me crazy but...

everything in the world says friction being independent of surface is amontons law

except a link i copy past and my physics notes which call it coulombs law

so the only merit of einstein was conspire agaisnt mankind unscrupulously with tt

go figures your the shadow that makes the light beautifull

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everybody knows google rank the pages by traffic

this thread is the firts among millions

then it has some of the highest traffic on the net

well dont worry i hate responsability but i realize the one i have

but well then since im inmune to timetravel all i have to do is keep alive so the allies and freedom always win so i can exist thing they cant change since i seem to be inmune to tt

and like they cant change my free will they influence my free will planting suicidal ideas in my mind by just mentioning

or telling my story and telling me subliminally what to do

god i really love this song i wonder what the lyrics said in that past life and what this tune meant to me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oofSnsGkops

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by raaaid

wow thanks a lot outlaw as the goodie you are fighting for a bad cause you just gave it away:

Everything you said is wrong.

The static friction coefficient (μ) between two solid surfaces is defined as the ratio of the tangential force (F) required to produce sliding divided by the normal force between the surfaces (N)

μ = F /N


So, the coefficient of friction is determined experimentally and DEPENDS ON THE SURFACES INVOLVED. That includes EVERYTHING about the surfaces and the bodies used in the aforementioned experiment.

The example coefficients of friction used in textbooks and even in industry are VERY BROAD. For example, for steel on steel sliding pipe supports we use a 0.3 coefficient of friction. This works because all of our supports conform to similar specifications AND they are about the same size. If we started using a support with a contact area on the order of 50'x50' instead of the order of 4"x6" we would need to look at our friction coefficients again.

So, THE EQUATION IS INDEPENDENT OF THE AREA OF CONTACT, but determining the coefficient of friction is not.

That is why, as I said before, the rolling and sliding friction equations are gross simplifications and must be used within their limitations.


--Outlaw.

[Sternjaeger II]

...I dunno who of the two is sadder...
Outlaw, by know even the tiles on the floor would agree with you, don't you see there's no dialogue with this guy?! He keeps on doing the same thing: hops here and there, posts a random video and take all with a laugh..

[raaaid]

you dint bring down my high level link in atmospheric lensing of the sun atmosphere not being taken into account till the 90s

i win my point of einstein and the generally accepted truth a fraud

i provide two links saying force of friction is independent of surface are you rebating them

incidentally are the only links on which that non surface dpendancy is named coulombs law

ALL THE REST OF THE NET LABELS IT AS montomom

doesnt that back up my delusion of people messing with tt travel and my unwanted attention due to my inmunity to tt?

[arthursmedley]

Originally Posted by raaaid

god i really love this song i wonder what the lyrics said in that past life and what this tune meant to me

So now we know the truth. Raaaaid has been driven insane by listening to James Blunt. Now it all becomes clear.

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by raaaid

everybody knows google rank the pages by traffic

Then tell me boy genius, how is it that my site is listed at #1 for that search when that site has not seen more than 5 or 6 hits in the last 6 months, maybe even more?????

How do they know how much traffic the Palo Alto web server is serving?

How do they know the traffic of ANY servers, except their own?

We all know the answer, they don't.

If you had bothered to look for 3 minutes you would have learned that the number of other sites that link to your site is the most significant factor in determining Google ranking. However, that factor is applied AFTER relevance of the keywords is calculated so you must still have a high relevance for the keywords. Without that, it does not matter how many people link to your site.

--Outlaw.

[Outlaw]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

...I dunno who of the two is sadder...
Outlaw, by know even the tiles on the floor would agree with you, don't you see there's no dialogue with this guy?! He keeps on doing the same thing: hops here and there, posts a random video and take all with a laugh..

Oh yes, I am fully aware. There is a reason for my madness, mostly free lunches.

--Outlaw.