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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-01-2012, 08:08 PM
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Ok, so up until now, I have flown the 109 almost exclusively. Over the last couple of days, I've been flying the spitfire and I've noticed a couple of things and wanted to know if they are known issues or if it is just specific to my set up.

1) On the ground, especially during takeoff, I get really crappy fps. Lots of stutter and etc. This never happens when I takeoff in the 109.

2) It doesn't seem like the spitfire uses any gas. I look at the tank needle and it never moves. Are there multiple tanks and it is reading a tank that is not being drawn from? If so, how do I change tanks on the gauge?

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Old 09-01-2012, 08:32 PM
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Ok, so up until now, I have flown the 109 almost exclusively. Over the last couple of days, I've been flying the spitfire and I've noticed a couple of things and wanted to know if they are known issues or if it is just specific to my set up.

1) On the ground, especially during takeoff, I get really crappy fps. Lots of stutter and etc. This never happens when I takeoff in the 109.

2) It doesn't seem like the spitfire uses any gas. I look at the tank needle and it never moves. Are there multiple tanks and it is reading a tank that is not being drawn from? If so, how do I change tanks on the gauge?

Thanks,
1) I never fly the 109 so for me the fps in the Spitfire are normal is your grass setting to low?
2) The fuel gauge in the Spitfire is a strange thing and does not show any consumption until there is less than 36 gallons of fuel left in all its tanks. During the Spitfire evolution this did change and normally the pilot did have a push button to ask is fuel situation next to the gauge but it does not work in the game.
3) The Spitfire is very sensitive on is ailerons and do not forget like nearly all RAF plane it has rudder trim in flight (nice).
4) Never fly more than 5 minutes at max rev or the engine explode! Survey the engine water temp like a hawk never above 120°.
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Old 09-02-2012, 12:47 AM
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Thanks for the reply and the tips on the Spit. That makes sense about the 36 gallons. I guess that I've not been in the air long enough to get down to only 36 gallons left.

I don't know what the fuel consumption rate is on a spitfire, but I bet that if you do start to see the needle move, you'd better be landing soon....

I've noticed that, if a 109 disengages and leaves the combat arena, just let him go, because you ain't going to catch him in a spit.
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Old 09-02-2012, 01:27 AM
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Thanks for the reply and the tips on the Spit. That makes sense about the 36 gallons. I guess that I've not been in the air long enough to get down to only 36 gallons left.

I don't know what the fuel consumption rate is on a spitfire, but I bet that if you do start to see the needle move, you'd better be landing soon....

I've noticed that, if a 109 disengages and leaves the combat arena, just let him go, because you ain't going to catch him in a spit.
Only at the moment though...the spitfire is bugged so badly in this patch (1.0...In real life the Spitfire was faster than the 109 by 7mph...I watched a documentary on the 109 vs Spit...if your interested i will link it to you if you want
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Old 09-02-2012, 05:49 AM
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I don't recall noticing any difference between the 109 & Spit in regards to fps when taking off.
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Old 09-02-2012, 08:11 AM
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1)2) The fuel gauge in the Spitfire is a strange thing and does not show any consumption until there is less than 36 gallons of fuel left in all its tanks. During the Spitfire evolution this did change and normally the pilot did have a push button to ask is fuel situation next to the gauge but it does not work in the game.
The spitfire had two tanks, Top and Bottom, the top tank drained into the bottom and the engine fed from the bottom tank. There 'should' be a button somewhere that lets you switch which tank is being displayed on the single guage. I don't think it is modeled in game.

The guage is showing the contents of the bottom tank which is continually being topped up by the top tank. So until the the top tank is emptied the bottom tank is full.


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Old 09-02-2012, 08:17 AM
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The spitfire had two tanks, Top and Bottom, the top tank drained into the bottom and the engine fed from the bottom tank. There 'should' be a button somewhere that lets you switch which tank is being displayed on the single guage. I don't think it is modeled in game.

The guage is showing the contents of the bottom tank which is continually being topped up by the top tank. So until the the top tank is emptied the bottom tank is full.


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Regarding your FPS issues:

Are you flying on the latest steam version or beta patch?

Reason I ask is if you are on the steam patch the mirror on the spitfire will cause massive FPS loss, especially on the ground. Try turning off the mirror and see if that helps. If you're on the beta, then I don't really know
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Old 09-02-2012, 08:35 AM
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The low fps may be caused by the black smoke due to neg g cutout, I noticed this in certain patch version but I cant remember which version it was, the neg g was over sensitive and happened even when taxiing the Spit.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:09 AM
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Regarding your FPS issues:

...the mirror on the spitfire will cause massive FPS loss, especially on the ground. Try turning off the mirror and see if that helps. ...
Some really interesting information on this thread; information that I personally think should be included in the manual that comes with the game.

However, I just wanted to point out that the poster that pointed to the mirror as the culprit was absolutely correct. I turned that worthless thing off, and viola, my "on the ground" fps's were fixed straight away.

I am flying with the latest "official" non-beta version.
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:48 AM
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The Spitfire MKI to MKII could at least stay in the air for 3/4 of a hour at max speed and consuption this in the game is more than the time needed to go from Ramsgate to Watchfield going along the coast do you need more?
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