Open Gays in military - how has it worked out?

[nearmiss]

I'm not trying to start a political post... so don't go there.

Do you have experience or have knowledge of this?

There are countries that have open gays in military and I am wondering how has that worked out?

[5./JG27.Farber]

Are you gay and thinking of Joining?

In the UK its "allowed" but the soldiers dont like it and drive them out from what I hear. However the British Army has under gone massive changes in discipline - the old ways are out.

This is however hear say as this is what I heard from my best mate who is leaving the army this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI

[swiss]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

I'm not trying to start a political post... so don't go there.

Do you have experience or have knowledge of this?

There are countries that have open gays in military and I am wondering how has that worked out?

Depends on function and position, armies are like huge companies, you sure can find use for them - most likely not in the combat units.

[AndyJWest]

There is a decent article on the subject in Wikipedia, with links to more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gays_in_the_military

As for " most likely not in the combat units", that is clearly untrue - back in the days when people were being dismissed from the military because of their sexual orientation, they included plenty from combat units. For a current example of a frontline gay British soldier, and on the consequences of his 'coming out' see here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-decision.html

[baronWastelan]

I'm guessing DI's these days are very reluctant to order 'bends and thrusts'.

[nearmiss]

I'm thinking about morale for the most part.

When I was in military it wasn't even a consideration to allow them in.

I remember thinking... why is it I have such a problem with gays?

The I realized why. when they hit on me it was like they were saying, "you are like me", which I found very objectionable.

I am curious to know how it is working in other countries that allow gays in the military.

The reason I ask is because you cannot really get any "REAL" information about the topic.

It would be interesting to know what the military men and women are dealing with, and their perspective on it.

Afterall, all the bureucrats and politicians know what is best for everyone.

The media is clammed up tight, the politicians don't talk about it, and the Generals are all under gag orders.

[baronWastelan]

There was one CPL I knew that was said to be bisexual. Mostly I was jealous that he was having twice as much fun as me.

[arthursmedley]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

I remember thinking... why is it I have such a problem with gays?

The I realized why. when they hit on me it was like they were saying, "you are like me", which I found very objectionable.

Lol lots and lots nearmiss!! Did they try and hit on you often? Come on m8, post a picture of yourself so we can judge whether you're "Gay Bait."


@ JG27/Farber; that's NOT a Monty Python video at all. That's P Company at Aldershot practising for their "Coming out" parade.

[GF_Mastiff]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

I'm thinking about morale for the most part.

When I was in military it wasn't even a consideration to allow them in.

I remember thinking... why is it I have such a problem with gays?

The I realized why. when they hit on me it was like they were saying, "you are like me", which I found very objectionable.

I am curious to know how it is working in other countries that allow gays in the military.

The reason I ask is because you cannot really get any "REAL" information about the topic.

It would be interesting to know what the military men and women are dealing with, and their perspective on it.

Afterall, all the bureucrats and politicians know what is best for everyone.

The media is clammed up tight, the politicians don't talk about it, and the Generals are all under gag orders.

"The I realized why. when they hit on me it was like they were saying, "you are like me", which I found very objectionable."

My self; I found it flattering that I'm a good looking enough guy, for a Gay to even hit on me. I'm secure enough to know how to say thanks for the ego boost but I'm straight.
If your not secure with your self and know how to control your self esteem, or ego then you have a problem with your self.

Gays have been in the military since the dawn of war.

[ATAG_Doc]

In the Army they station them at Fort Dix in New Jersey.