... has anyone seen 42K HP Gremlin towers?

[ckdamascus]

Imagine my surprise when I try for the hammer in New Kordar and I notice the gremlin towers have 42K HP.

The "friendly gremlin tower" that summons -- summoned 52 giants in one round.

... uh what?

[ivra]

No!!!

I have however notice a big variation in how difficult the battles are. In my current game (Normal difficulty) I am using three "Ring of the Snake King" rings (Yeah, I know I am lucky! They each give +5 Intellect, which is perfect for my blaster-mage). I have regularly subdued them and I notice that the health of the towers is always the same for the same ring, but the health varies a lot. For my three rings the health of the towers are approximately 2000, 3000, and 8000. That is a variance of 4x between the weakest and the strongest ring.

I loaded my normal game and the health of the towers in the hammer battle was 11345, which will correspond to a health of approximately 19300 on Impossible. If we assume that this is a middle value and multiply it with 2 then it is getting close to the value you got.

[dainbramage]

Yeah, I've seen them. Also odd because the 42k hp evil gremlins cast... a 300 damage level 1 lightning spell. Never seen them summon 50 giants, but have seen 400+ alchemists.

[ckdamascus]

Yeah I was a little off. They were 47.8K HP. But dainbramage is right! They tend to do VERY little damage though.

The first time I fought them, 52 giants. The second time, I got "lucky" and only 36 giants near the end of the battle. My demons ran as fast as possible away from the impending earthquake! Still ended up losing 1 though.

ivra, Oh I'm very aware of the ring of the snake king. LOVE THOSE RINGS. I have 2 of them now, even as a Viking!

As a Soothsayer I had 2 of them too, but had a Usurer ring too. (would have liked 3 snake rings because I hate losing gold).

Ah, that's interesting to know about the 4X variance and makes sense! Thanks for the info guys!

[Fatt_Shade]

This a bit old info, but towers for item battles are determined on moment you buy/get that item. Higher lvl of hero , harder item battles.
So if you get some upgradeable item when you just start game with 1st lvl Olaf, and get same item again when you`re 70th lvl - battles will be big difference.
In the end, if yu want easy upgraded item get it as soon as yhou find it in shop, finish quest with upgradeable item as reward. But if you want more exp and rage skill usage then wait untill you`re higher lvl and buy item/finish quest for reward.
Hope i helped

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

This a bit old info, but towers for item battles are determined on moment you buy/get that item. Higher lvl of hero , harder item battles.
So if you get some upgradeable item when you just start game with 1st lvl Olaf, and get same item again when you`re 70th lvl - battles will be big difference.
In the end, if yu want easy upgraded item get it as soon as yhou find it in shop, finish quest with upgradeable item as reward. But if you want more exp and rage skill usage then wait untill you`re higher lvl and buy item/finish quest for reward.
Hope i helped

Well, I am still a noob, I didn't realize that and that makes a ton of sense as this is my highest level play through ever and I just found the item!

Thanks for the help!

[ivra]

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

This a bit old info, but towers for item battles are determined on moment you buy/get that item. Higher lvl of hero , harder item battles.
So if you get some upgradeable item when you just start game with 1st lvl Olaf, and get same item again when you`re 70th lvl - battles will be big difference.
In the end, if yu want easy upgraded item get it as soon as yhou find it in shop, finish quest with upgradeable item as reward. But if you want more exp and rage skill usage then wait untill you`re higher lvl and buy item/finish quest for reward.
Hope i helped

Yes that helped a lot. Thanks! It also explained why I had to fight towers with 38800 in health when playing on Normal (that will correspond to 66k on Impossible). I am level 59 and just got a certain chest that can be used...

[Sirron]

I've had 60k gremlin towers. On normal. Imagine on impossible. Yikes.