[Herbie McHerbster]

You kinda skirted the issue here didn't, you? Keyboards may be hooked up to consoles, but that doesn't matter, because BoP wasnt designed to be used with one. Hence the dumbing down of the controls. It wont be anywhere near as realistic as IL-2 on the PC. Which brings us back to Oleg's quote

"true flight simulators can only be made on the PC and not on consoles"

Your response to that is to simply dumb them down enough to the point that they CAN be played on a console? That's moving backwards. You noted how realistic Blackshark is, you see that as a negative for some reason, but guess what, that's the future. And believe it or not there are many players out there who love the detailed realism of it. That's why we play sims in the first place, for the realism. I don't buy a sim like Blackshark just to go into the options menu and turn on arcade mode, I do play on full realism, just as the developers intended.

And yes, there does come a point where a game's realism makes it a sim, and where a sim is dumbed down too much to the point where it is a merely a game. And as of now no console game can be realistic enough to be called a 'sim', and no sim can ever be ported to a console without becoming a 'game'.