Well, here's my thoughts on the new map, compared to the CloD map particularly with reference to England.
I'm certainly not going to post my views on the new forums, because you are not allowed to point out any negative aspect of the RoF/BoS engine, due to a certain moderator, in fact i find it amusing that more criticism is tolerated in the RoF forums than in the new forums......
Also, i should mention that i like both games, although most of my time is still spent in il2 1946 hsfx, because thats what is easier for the squad to fly due to technical issues regarding both the other games (lack of co-op mode for Clod, and difficulty in hosting co-ops in RoF without a futuristic internet connection).
For those who haven't seen the new Rof map, heres a vid i made for Frycinet who asked to see a non dogfight vid of it,
Anyway, things i think are better in the RoF channel map,
1) I like the overall colours of the textures better, although there are not many different types possibly as Clods. However, they look more like where i live to me.
2) I like the attention to accuracy in the coastline mapping, its better than clods, re the little bays, which parts are cliffs and which are not along the coastline. (at this point i should add that i live about 2 miles from Manston airport, and have flown in a Stearman out over Margate and the coast, featured in both maps). Flying for real over Margate and out to sea, RoF's coastline is much better.
3) Trees. Not necessarily the look, but the ability to hit them, although i prefer the density of tress on CloDs map.
Things i think the Clod map is better,
1) The sea. By a huge margin indeed. Although Feathered_IV's colour mod is a huge improvement (are you going to post that as a mod over on the RoF forums, pretty please!), when you get down low over it in Rof it looks terrible in my opinion, Clods looks fantastic.
2) Towns and villages. Far far superior in Clod. Towns are more accurate in size, and there are more represented, and for some reason small villages on the RoF map look like there from the 17th century. I live in a small village, in a house that was built before WW1 as are most in my street. They do not look like mud huts. In general the buildings look much more like English building on the Clod map.
3) Colour of the sky and horizon. Living here, i can say with absolute certainty, in Clod is much more what i see in real life here on the South coast. The haze is just about perfect for this part of the world, and having lived in Australia for a year i can understand why people from other countries think it should look different, but for here they are wrong, period.
Regarding fps, i get about the same with Clod maxed out as i do with the Rof maxed out, indeed on the RoF forums there are many complaints about the optimisation of the new channel map on some systems. One thing to mention regarding frames however, is that obviously i have lots of aa running when i play RoF, not so much with Clod lol, so that might skew fps, although i haven't tried turning off aa on the Rof map to check how many fps i'd gain.
So to conclude, both have strengths, and both do some things better. On balance, i prefer Clods, although its pretty close.
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Originally Posted by JG52Uther
Well, on the whole the Central (German) aircraft are underperforming, and some of the Entente aircraft are optimistic to say the least so we usually fly Gotha'a or 2 seaters.
One of my squadmates did a bit of research, obviously finding performance figures for WW1 are not so easy, but it appears that most info was taken from captured examples:
- Albatros D.II is missing 11kmh topspeed (164 vs 175 - Mercedes D.III)
- Albatros D.III is missing 15kmh topspeed (170 vs 185 - we have the late OAW version with Mercedes D.IIIa)
- Albatros D.Va is missing 17kmh topspeed (170 vs 187 - Mercedes D.IIIa)
- Pfalz D.IIIa is missing 13kmh topspeed (168 vs 181 - Mercedes D.IIIa)
- Pfalz D.XII is running on the wrong engine (currently: BMW III, should be: Mercedes D.IIIau)
- Fokker D.VII is running on the wrong engine (currently: Mercedes D.III, should be: Mercedes D.IIIau)
- Fokker D.VIII is missing at least 15kmh topspeed (185 vs as much as 204 - Oberursel URII)
The last FM changes were done over a year ago...
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This is what i've read as well, and i find a concern especially your line,
The last FM changes were done over a year ago....
Until recently i've mainly flown central power aircraft, and was amazed by how easy allied planes are compared. I can predict a certain Hungarian having a fit when BoS comes out......
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Originally Posted by startrekmike
I imagine that this thread is really just going to turn into another ROF bashing session, I suppose there is no avoiding it on this forum.
I wish we could all go back to talking about CloD and not CloD compared to everything else.
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This is the only forum where you can say negative things about Rof with out threads disappearing. It is also natural to compare 2 different products that are modelling the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Jaws2002
They just torpedoed the entire online community with this map.
The map is sold as addon. Looks like not many online regulars got this new map and if it shows up in the rotation on the server, the guys that don't have it get kicked. The server instantly goes from 20-30 people to five. Now those that didn't get the map can't play, and those that got it don't have who to play with.
If you dare posting about it on ROF forums they delete the thread in a heart beat.
Good luck with this bussines model in the next game.
The map is ok, the collor of water is off. Water looks like 1946 water with better waves. The lighting engine makes it look wrong.
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Yep this is interesting, and has caused many complaints over on the RoF forums, mainly because they were told by the infallible management that this wasn't going to be the case, lol.
That said, i can't see how it was ever not going to turn out as it has, it is the nature of the online community to play with new toys.
anyway, thats my take on it all.
Edit, you can see what i mean about the sea looking bad imo towards the end of this vid, looks best in 1080p,