The machine guns on British aircraft struggle to kill fighters, never mind bombers. With both 109s and 111s, unless you are good enough to deliberately kill the pilot, your aim is to cause enough damage to stop them getting home then move on to the next target - you will get your kill confirmation later. I find the most efficient attack on a LW bomber is a fast raking attack from 4 o/c or 8 o/c targeting the cockpit area as even if you miss the pilot you will probably damage the engine. The *safest* attack is high 10 o/c or 2 o/c which will still have a good chance of hitting cockpit and engine but is harder to do as you are closing faster and need to be better at deflection shooting. Sometimes you can also get good results diving under the tail and then coming up an shooting ahead of his nose and raking him from nose to tail; I have killed the pilot a few times that way.
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