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Originally Posted by robtek
If you reduce it to that, the key point is that the 109 is controlable all the time, even in a high speed stall, and its adversaries aren't, which is a great achievement by itself and should be represented in game.
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This is a fundamental misunderstanding which comes up again and again in the course of discussions re. the 109's 'controllability'.
An aircraft in a stall is out of control by the very definition of the word 'stall'.
It is no longer in flight. It has ceased to be anything but a falling object. Maybe the 109 will fall in a predictable and logical fashion, but it is still falling.
A 109 in a stall is out of control. No if's, and's or but's.
Can a 109 be recovered fairly quickly?
Yes, but a recovery requires the standard stall recovery procedure, ie. centered or slightly forward controls, allowing the aircraft to gain speed and lift, and gentle application of controls only after the normal conditions for flight have been re-acquired.
A stall in a 109 like any other aircraft is going to result in loss of control and height. Perhaps the stall can be recovered fairly quickly, but recovery is still a requirement. While the aircraft is out of control, it cannot be flown in any normal sense. Any attempt to 'fly' a stalled aircraft is going to increase the severity of the stall, and prolong the time the aircraft will remain in a stall. Want to put a 109 in a spin? Continue to try to 'fly it' after it has entered a stall.
To quote again the RAE report on LOW speed turn stalls:
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When the slots were fully open the aircraft could be turned quite steadily until very near the stall. If the stick was then pulled back a little more the aircraft suddenly shuddered, and either tended to come out of the turn or dropped its wing further, oscillating meanwhile in pitch and roll and rapidly losing height ; the aircraft immediately unstalled if the stick was eased forward. Even in a very tight turn the stall was quite gentle, with no tendency for the aircraft to suddenly flick over on to its back and spin.
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Note the requirement for the stick to be eased forward (brought forward GENTLY) to allow the aircraft to regain speed and lift. Standard stall recovery. Any attempt to use the controls to do other than stall recovery would result in a prolonged stall.