[taildraggernut]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

Let me fix that for you as it the highlighted portion is the source of your confusion on this issue.

Why don't you schedule some flying lessons and explain to the instructor how the elevator can increase angle of attack AFTER the wing is stalled.

Really? that's the best you've got? instead of answering the question you just keep playing the 'why don't you go take flying lessons because I don't need to because the movie TOP GUN was all about me'?

Heres a nice link to some material us actual flying instructors use..

Standard Stall Recovery (SSR) from a fully stalled condition is then taught. Recovery
action should be initiated at the first full stall sign. Noting the entry height will again
enable the height lost during recovery to be demonstrated illustrating the increased
height loss in the event of a full stall. This emphasises the benefit of early recognition
and recovery at the incipient stage.
Recovery without power can then follow. This clarifies that to recover from the stall the
angle of attack must be reduced using the elevator, which remains effective in the stall.

That bit again..

angle of attack must be reduced using the elevator, which remains effective in the stall.

taken from GAPAN (Guild of Air Pilots and Air Navigators)..

www.gapan.org/file/666/teaching-stalling.pdf

Home website..

https://www.gapan.org/

I should remind you that slats deploy before the main wing has actually stalled which makes my original text quite correct thanks.

While were at it perhaps you could educate us all on exactly what phenomenon takes place that renders elevators inoperative when the wing is stalled? I'm pretty sure if there is airflow over the elevator then it has something to create a pitch force with

Heres my ORIGINAL question without ammendment as it's the one that makes sense and highlighted in BOLD is the part I'd like to know more about.

Heres a really nice and simple way to illustrate this for you...you have pitched up in your 109....inboard section of the wing begins to stall and the lovely slats have deployed keeping you nice and safe....you keep pulling and your angle of attack is still increasing (even for the magic outboard section of the wing).....now you have pitched so much that you have stalled the outboard section of the wing because you have gone beyond the maximum angle of attack the slats allow.......please explain from this point what magic force is in place to prevent a spin.

please, no more cheap insults or suggestions I need to educate myself, that stuff gets old real quick, just answer my question.

Thanks in advance.