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Old 11-08-2012, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tiberiu View Post
I would say orcs were quite good units in CW. Some were nerfed in Wotn it seems. It's hard to find reasons to play with them unless you have items, skills or other bonuses for them as mentioned.

I dunno if they still have the ability but in CW Goblins incrased their attack by 5 every time they attacked.(probably at lvl 1 adrenaline which meant first attack they didn't). This made them much better then human archers to use, and also you can get to morale 10 with them as with all orc units.

The goblin shaman in CW had extremly high damaging astral attack and could reduce all resistances of enemies that he attacked. This has been nerfed in Wotn. The same with Blood Shaman. Some extremely high damaging talent they had. Now they are nerfed and they are weaker.

Orc Veteran was reduced from lvl 4 to lvl 3 which makes him much less a threat then he was before.

Furious Goblins with their high initiative -8, and high movement and irascible ability (increases speed if receive damage from spells) can provide nasty surprises. Also have a form of no retaliation attack.

I think I hate fighting against orcs more then I like playing with them. So they seem good when you are against them but weak when u play with them.
I'm using the latest steam patch and applied one of the .lua patches but Veteran Orcs are still Level 4 in my current game.

They used to have an ability where if you had either speed or init (I forgot which) higher than the enemy, they couldn't counter attack you.

This actually WORKED against bosses back in Crossworlds.

Now, it seems they can quaff the Potion of Rage and will "always counter attack" (this is new/different I think), also they can counter-counterattacks like berserkers. (I think they always had this?

Goblin Shaman -- Their "astral axes" are replaced with some "ghost" attack which seemed to be fairly high damaging.
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