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Old 10-24-2012, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by lonewulf View Post
I don't know if people are or aren't using 100% 8mm tungsten, but even if they are, is it really an issue? If 2cm cannon rounds easily penetrate aircraft armour (ball goes through about 14mm worth at 200m - that's more than twice the thickness of a Spit back plate) what's the difference? It just means that an E 1 can probably kill you just as quick as an E 3, if it gets rounds on your head or back plate. The trick of course, as others have already pointed out, is to avoid a situation where this can happen. Much easier said than done of course but that's the challenge.
Actually M-Geschoss actually had poor penetration when it came to armour, what it did was penetrate the skin of the aircraft, then explode, and because of the large amount of explosive filling, more than a standard HE round, the explosive force was enough to blow whole sections of the aircraft skin off, and without the skin strength, the structures of wings and fuselage often failed.

This particular 7.92mm tungsten round in the game gives the German side an ahistorical advantage which they did not have.

It allows players to load up 2000 rounds and 60 seconds worth of firing into the E-1, and get equal power, same penetration as a 20mm AP round, more firing time, and better accuracy than the 20mm cannon in the E-3 and E-4, which the Luftwaffe said was a better weapons system, and which only allowed Luftwaffe pilots 7 seconds of firing time.

The game has created a weapons system for the 109's which isn't based on any kind of historical reality. The Germans were converting their MG armed E-1's as fast as they could into cannon armed versions because the cannon versions were more effective. The real life pilots complained when they had to fly the E-1's. The opposite is happening in CoD. Go on the servers, the guys who have the biggest scores are flying the E-1, and Blue flyers are converting wholesale into this plane from the E-3 and E-4.

Where are the tests showing what this round could do in penetrative terms? Where are the historical records showing its use in Luftwaffe fighters in 1940? No one has produced anything.

What we have now is a legal hack, we might as well allow the Germans to use the pulse cannon of the Su-26.

Last edited by *Buzzsaw*; 10-24-2012 at 06:27 AM.
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