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Originally Posted by JG14_Josf
I want to acknowledge the fact that I do not know for sure that the Korea Era EM by Boyd was based upon flight tests done by Boyd and or Yeager, my copy of BOYD was loaned out years ago and I think that that is where the idea that that chart was plotted on tests, NOT CALCULATED, came from.
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Yes indeed, Boyd was a great fighter pilot in real life, in fact no one did ever beat the 40 seconds Boyd in the Hun rat fight at Nellis. That is why and how he managed to quantify the principles of the dogfight in the first place. If you want to do the same (in the CloD environment), you would need to be spectacular fighter pilot in the CloD environment. You are not a spectacular fighter pilot in the CloD environment just yet. Mastering the fighter type in question is a key to measure the parameters correctly.
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Originally Posted by JG14_Josf
109s and 190s, Double Inferior or not, does not matter to me,
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No simulator known to me portrayed the 109s and 190s as double inferior. This must consider other sim than CloD as there is no 190 in CloD, hence it is off topic.
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I fly what I bring to the fight, unless I get tired of seeing too many very odd things happening where planes can fight in front of me while I am approaching at top speed, and then the guy fighting in a turn fight in front of me is now level with me, after turning and burning, diving and returning to my altitude, and then that same plane zooms up, turns around, starts shooting, while my plane is stalling and incapable of maneuvering from Top Speed in Level Flight on this odd plane that can turn and burn all day and still have enough energy to zoom high enough over me to then perform a pitch over, or who knows, maybe a turn at Corner Speed, and turn the tables at will.
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This sounds like you met a fighter pilot superior to you (if he flew the same type) or a fighter pilot flying a superior type to yours. There is always a bigger fish in the pond.
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Sustained Turn Performance with the Pylons, as you have described, could begin to quantify a Standard measure of physical distance relative to the ground, you are thinking in terms of making a Ruler, and this Ruler will then have graduations on it, like meters, so that one meter, on that ground is always that meter, not longer, not shorter, it is one meter in length, and the pylons are a known distance across the diameter, which is twice the radius, and the circumference is then a simple math calculation using pie (not apple).
That is the stuff that is ON TOPIC.
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I agree again but by doing that kind of flying you will become a test pilot rather than fighter pilot.
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In an informal test on-line with IL2, for example, I remember clearly a case of me following Task in a 109 or 190, I can't remember, and I was in a P-39 at the time, we were both at maximum turn performance and I asked Task on TS if he was at Black Out, which he was, and I was easily able to pull back on the stick, no Black Out, pull lead in that very tight, very fast, maximum performance turn, where Task was at Black Out, and I could happily shoot parts off the plane Task was flying as Task was at his useable Corner Velocity and as I was far from it. I know my air speed was higher because I was closing the distant between Task and my plane before I started pulling lead. If you understand Energy Maneuverability then you understand, based upon that test data, that the P-39 PILOT could tolerate a higher g load than the PILOT modeled into the plane that is flying at a lower speed, at Black Out, and the turn radius is larger for the Blacking Out Pilot, there are few possible explanations, the most obvious one is a lower g tolerance for that pilot.
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Again, complete different flight sim to CloD, I would like to inform you that all planes have got the G-limit modelled identically. In other words, the G tolerance in that sim is modelled exactly the same in that particular other sim. That is a FACT.
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If the Quake pilots don't like a Single Superior 109, what do you think they will be willing to do, as in deception, when they have to face a 190A-3 in a Spitfire V, or face an F-86 in a Mig-15, if the game codes the actual relative performance differences?
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What is a quake pilot? What is your tactics in a Spitfire Mk.Vb against a Fw 190A-3?
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