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These are just facts.
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Nope, this is just your opinion and has nothing to do with any test report's contents.
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Manufacturer's quaranteed performance is not a test data and not relevent.
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Unfortunately it is test data and it is relevant. Unless you want to dream up specifications.
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You were asked real test data for 500kmh and none has been posted.
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Oh they were, you just happen to ignore them.
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Not specified but these are real tests of the real series planes.
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In unknown conditions..
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Still, these match well with 109F speed 495kmh for 1.3ata, 500 kmh for 109E at same power or at 1.35ata is unlogical.
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Oh but an 500+ kph Spitfire I as fast as the 109F *IS* logical, riiiiight?
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Yes in small degree, but much less speculation than assume series engine like you do.
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Thank you for admitting that your remark about supposed two speed superchargers was just speculation.
As for my my "assumptions" about the engine, here is what the test report has to say about it:
Motor: DB 601 A, serial number 140.
Quite clear cut is it not?
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Hm... in game test data is showing 475kmh which is actually slightly faster than swiss tests but acceptable.
Good work 1C, you are able to see behind speculations.
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They did see through speculations, that's why the final patch is going to fix the SL speed of the 109E to its historical 500 kph-ish value.
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Edit: The point is that if you put doubt on various data on Spitfire at +12lbs, as you did, you should be just as critical in the case of the 109 data.
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I see. Your position is, if I got it right, that a completely unreferenced graph, without any details showing 6 1/4 boost performance, on which somebody draw up ex post facto his wishful estimates on +12 and even a fantasy +16 boosted level speed performance with a pencil, for the Mark I. Spitfire has the same credibility as the most detailed test on the 109E, which contains engine bench test data, airframe conditions data, calibration curves, and has been appropriately corrected for German Standard Day conditions.
I respectfully disagree with your assessment.
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Otherwise a reader gets impression of double standards.
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Indeed they might get this idea. Statements like "Manufacturer's quaranteed performance is not relevent" may lead to such conclusions.