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Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

I think a lot of us grasp this concept just fine. I just think most of us don't care any more.

those that dont care shouldnt be here exacerbating the problem.

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

we don't have a working sim and a vaporware sequel.

and your point is ? basically all events in the future have always a degree of uncertainty with them, but then without planing and working towards it none would ever exist or be created. being here to complain about the past (which they already stated is not being addressed) is pointless, being here to complain about the future is just irrational. for those who just operate on a reactive emotional level it is expressed as constant whining and moaning, for those operating on a more rational constructive approach its a matter of trying to see what can be done to improve the odds in it being improved and fixed (yes, sadly that will be slowly, another cause for possible frustration)

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

If they go out of business it's their own fault. .

yeps, but you can either increase or decrease those odds. by only focusing on the negative and constant whining (not you personally) people just increase the chances of failure. and that last bit can make all the difference in gradually letting the sim series recover, or making it more likely to fail (again not you personally, but in general by those purely focusing on the negatives)

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

It's not the community's responsibility to keep them afloat financially.

whatever you have paid so far just allowed them to continue, if you are so dissatisfied with the brand then move on and cut your losses because nothing will happen to reverse that. and if you dont want to buy BoM at release, dont, just wait 6 months for the reviews to come out and the first patches to be delivered, and then make up your mind. that is quite a different response then some of the people who deliberately come here to undermine its further development

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

You're acting like if MG goes under then WW2 flight sims will end forever. This is demonstrably false. DCS could release a 190-D to fight against their P-51D and I'd wager 70% of the community would be happy with that.

your logic is confusing.
on the one hand you are willfully disregarding anything positive about the current SoW series (of which you currently own a beta) which is a tangible product you already have in your hands and know the near future development line off (BoM), and which is something you can directly contribute to (no, not in money) by providing constructive feedback, but on the other hand you are willing to put all your eggs into the one basket hoping for some vague distant project that doesnt even exist (based on rumors) and that might or might not manifest ? to me that sequence of logic just does not compute. why not help support current development that you can, and hope for the best for all the others ? that would make more sense to me.

the DCS p51 project is the most promising, but just one look at the low rez ground textures and scenery content, and then comparing it to what already works in CoD (err the french scenery in partic ) shows how different the focus of those 2 products is. having a jet sim with poor low altitude scenery is one thing, but for ww2 prop sims this is very important (and is the big killer in gfx engine design)

comparing those, you have an existing one half of one product (CoD) versus pure speculation and wishful thinking of several other "potentials" (none of which are even in development). btw, even DCS makes people pay for their beta stage, so expect no instant finished product there any time soon all those here that long awaited the il2 sequel are frustrated, including me, but right now it boils down to what direction we want the scales to tip in. i know where tree stands in that regard, and i greatly prefer to make some small contributions to increase the likelihood of SoW becoming a reality, of which part of the outcome is directly in our hands.