Crumpp,
You said:
"That is a good point. We are talking about the test pilots who felt the Bf-109 was "embarrassed" by the slats opening in the turn.
I would not be surprised if the pilots did not operate the propeller at its most efficient point at the single data point the RAE used. That would throw off all of Gates assumption for the entire envelope.
In order to reproduce the RAE results, I have to drop the propeller efficiency to below average and assume VDM could not properly design a propeller".
Given what Rall said below, would you not say that the "embarassed" remark was fair comment? If an event and effect designed for taking off and landing happens in the middle of fast air combat with no warning, when you do not intend it to happen, it is not a good thing is it? Esp if the slats do not function in an even way as per the design function. I would have thought that this effect should be part of the CloD FM. Thoughts?
Talisman
Me 109 E:
"And there I discovered the first thing you have to consider in a 109. The 109 had slots. The slot had a purpose to increase the lift during takeoff and landing. In the air automatically it's pressed to the main wing. And if you turn very roughly you got a chance, it's just by power, the wing, the forewing, comes out a little bit, and you snap. This happened to me. I released the stick immediately and it was ok then. "
- Major Gunther Rall in April 1943. German fighter ace, NATO general, Commander of the German Air Force. 275 victories. Source: Lecture by general Rall.
Me 109 E/F/G: - The plane had these wing slats and you mentioned they pop open uneven?
"Two meter slots on fore wings. The reason was to increase the lift during low speed take off and landing. To reduce the length of runway you need. In the air, if you make rough turns, just by gravity, the outer slot might get out. You can correct it immediately by release of stick, you know? Only little bit, psssssssht, its in, then its gone. You have to know that. And if you know it, you prevent it."
- Major Gunther Rall. German fighter ace, NATO general, Commander of the German Air Force. 275 victories. Source: Lecture by general Rall.
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