18 months - quite a long time. About the time it takes to get a fully-fledged add-on to market. Or a revised graphics run-time and weather/terrain effects, plus a dynamic campaign and weather system, and maybe an extra plane or two, possibly a theatre.

...or how about a Readme for a beta patch?

The thread subject was minimum expectations. I think we have been hovering around minimum expectations for quite a long time. More hovering than a helicopter or Vtol sim.

The sense of determined fantasy and unreality at least now seems to be giving way to a general grudging acceptance of the facts, which is progress of a sort. Soit's not all bad. Hopefully now that various ailments are so apparent, the code-doctors can start the treatment. the quesion is, do they amputate, or try and save what is there? Hence at the moment, minimum expectations....

The Ignore button, now my friend (how many people can it hold?)

Ben