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Old 09-06-2012, 12:04 AM
winny winny is offline
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Interesting debate, I thought I'd throw my 2 pence worth in..

You're both right, you need the maths, but you also need the combat reports.

You do the maths, then check to see if what's happening relates to what actually happened.

As far as I know combat reports and pilot's recollections are the only record of the use of these aircraft in the role they were designed for, combat.

I've read literally hundreds of combat reports from the Battle of Britain, both sides. Most of these guys were professionals, and eventually if you read enough, you can build a picture of what happened. OK, there's no numbers, but it's foolish to disregard them.

As Geoffry Wellum P/O 19 squadron BoB said "People ask me how can I remember it all, I just say, how could I forget?"

Read Brian Lanes account of a turning battle with a 109 where he sees the aileron snatch on the 109 , read Gallands stories of diving down onto Spits and being able to engage and disengage at will. Both from men who knew what they were doing.

The truth is a blend, where the math's ends the history helps.

Don't be partisan about it, there's enough people on here from both sides with enough knowledge to make CLoD/BoM the definitive sim.... If everyone would just stop arguing....

There you go, I think they call this "sitting on the fence".. oh well.
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