Btw. I tried some dogfights in "simulator" setting in Warthunder yesterday. And despite the fact that the stalls werent as violent as in cliffs it didnt feel all that diffrent... Sound is not as good but that gets compensated by the graphics
Acrace mode on the other hand sucks. Its dominated by people that pla with mouse in 3rd person view (much easier to aim this way) and people that own the biggest bombers and decide the map in a matter of minutes. Hopefully this will be changed once there is some sort of matchmaking option ingame.
Winger