Quote:
Originally Posted by Winger
well, i guess we will see what the next patch brings. I would not wonder if the 109s are the bones not too far in the future.
Winger
|
I well understand you thinking that -- I've been one of the loudest whiners. But that is the farthest thing from what most of us Red-whiners want. (note that I said "most"
)
As was mentioned earlier, the real 109 E-model and the Spitfire Mark I models were a close match; much closer than depicted currently in Cliffs of Dover. (There weren't many Spit IIa's in the BoB, and they only reached the squadrons towards the end. Plus they weren't a huge improvement in performance over the Ia).
Remember the IIa "über-Sissyfire" of the retail version (1.5950)? In actual numbers its performance wasn't far off what the actual Spitfire Ia (yes -- Ia) performance was -- at least at low/intermediate altitudes. The CoD 109's were (and still are) too slow in comparison. There are some strong concerns about the IIa über-Sissyfire's energy retention in hard maneuvring. I did some quick Immelmann turns and found that I lost almost exactly 100 mph doing each one -- this admittedly proves very little other than addressing a statement made that the Über-Sissyfire lost NO speed doing this maneuvre. That said, further testing needed to be done to verify that this aircraft's flight model was accurate (or needed adjustment as many believed).
In the few times I got to fly the IIa on the ATAG server (they were limited in number available and got snapped up quickly) I have to admit it was exhilarating to find myself not just matching a zoom climb of a formerly untouchable 109....but actually CLOSING on it to within convergence range!!! Zowie!!! That said, it was not rewarding in all honesty. It was an unfair advantage against the too-slow-modelled 109's. To make matters worse, there were many 109 experten who could still outfly and outshoot me to knock me out of the air in my superior aircraft -- which was embarassing.
It's got to be frustrating hearing us Red pilots whining after each patch. It's even more frustrating for us to anxiously await each patch then find the Spitfires have been borked further each time. I don't know where you got your information that each patch has made the Spitfires better and better, but you're dead wrong on that. As I said, they've been getting worse and worse with each patch. Obviously the devs have not been testing these aircraft, otherwise how could they account that in the earlier beta 100-octane Hurricanes couldn't even start online? Clearly they never even measured these patched Spits and Hurries for even basic performance since they glaringly are so very, very wrong! And clearly you haven't, either, to make the statements you have in this thread.
We want the Spitfires fixed. We want the Hurricanes fixed. We want the 109's fixed. And we want the 110's fixed. All of them, or it's no good.