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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II
Right, I would really like the anti-gun folks to answer this simple question:
You accept the fact that the majority of law abiding gun owners are not criminals nor do any harm to anybody with their guns, yet there is a small percentage of them who in most case don't turn out to be suitable for gun ownership due to medical/psychological conditions and kill others, so to you the best solution is to ban guns or regulate them even more strictly in order to avoid bad things would happen again, is that right?
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Illogical question. Law abiding gun owners are by definition not criminals. If you mean lawful gun owners then the answer is "no". The answer does not however mean that gun law should be relaxed.
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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II
According to your theory then what shall we do about Muslims? Yes, the majority are cool, but a small percentage of them, even in our own countries, have turned out to be terrorists or linked to them. Shall we follow the same logic just because a small minority is criminal? Shall we ban Islam and Muslims from our countries?
I don't wanna get in a religious debate here, all Im trying to say is that your gun banning theory is one step further towards a regime, maybe one with no guns,but surely not a safer nor a more free one. Don't you really think that your diversity and/or lack of interest/knowledge on the matter,fuelled by the government fear mongers, is just not enough of a valid reason to instate a ban that in reality won't solve problems?
It's like saying "hey, we don't like gingers because **paste here any ridiculous reason made up specifically** let's get rid of 'em!", still sounds like that place in Europe in the early 30s..
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I must confess I don't follow that guns equate to Muslims, it's a bit random. Pick any race, cultural or religious group and the same question can be asked. The answer will be the same - do nothing because a few bad apples doesn't spoil the crop.
And you display arrogance, assuming that people who do not like guns do not know what they are talking about. You could as easily say that those that do not like guns are more enlightened, educated and better able to make rational decisions. Suggesting that having gun law will lead to regime change is quite a leap of faith and one I don't share.
As with all gun discussion it comes down to cultural differences. If certain countries want relatively easy access to guns then fine, have them. My personal (informed) opinion is that guns are cool and nasty at the same time but the arguments for having them are circular and feed off each other, or they have no grip on reality.
But what do I know, I'm a sheep with no intention of bettering myself living in a weak-willed country that is slowly going to hell because we as individual sheep aren't allowed guns - this is a relatively poor attempt at cynical humour.
gunpolicy.org and nationmaster.com gave me 5 minutes of interesting reading, comparing the stats for the countries that the main protagonists on these boards live in.
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